[ga] Re: GA problems continue

[Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>]

The GA is as its members want it to be. If something really upset them as a 
group they would fix the problem. If they wanted to be all organized they would 
be. It is a distinguishable list forum that has tradition and a special niche 
in the ICANN process.
 
The only real, well kind of real, complaints we have are from people 
complaining about what someone else says. Those complaints are truthfully 
childish and silly. In near ten years here we have not had anything spill over 
into litigation or administrative action. The GA is not a rah rah or a peanut 
gallery list. If we offered free beer on the GA some would complain it was not 
inclusive of Alcoholics and others would point out lack of outreach to have it 
known.
 
As to checking in with you before I write what I think. Well that has merits, 
but I do not think I could really get into that habit, I am having trouble 
wrapping my mind around that.
If I did it; Would my thoughts still be my own? And would I even have a thought 
before I checked in? Would you still let me have my little baby evil thoughts - 
?. What would we do with the Zen Christian, Budhist, Jewish, Muslim, Great 
Spirit, Shinto Cao Dai thing I am into?
 
Tomorrow is the anniversery of my first suspension on the GA. 9 years ago for 
fighting with Mr. Walsh. Free beer at Jeffs.

--- On Wed, 4/22/09, Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: GA problems continue
To: "Ga" <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Hugh Dierker" <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>, "icann 
board" <icann-board@xxxxxxxxx>, "ICANN Patrick Jones" <patrick.jones@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "GAC Rep" <ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Debbie Garside" 
<debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Dr. Joe Baptista" <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, 
"Karl Peters - TLDA" <tlda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Karl E. Peters" 
<kpeters@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "ICANN Admin supp. Manager Karen Lettner" 
<karen.lettner@xxxxxxxxx>, "ICANN Brad White" <brad.white@xxxxxxxxx>, "ICANN 
Dan Halloran" <halloran@xxxxxxxxx>, "ICANN Janis Karklins" 
<janis.karklins@xxxxxxxxx>, "ICANN Kim Davies" <kim.davies@xxxxxxxxx>, "icann 
legal" <jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx>, "ICANN Marc Salvatierra" 
<marc.salvatierra@xxxxxxxxx>, "ICANN Marilyn Vernon" 
<marilyn.vernon@xxxxxxxxx>, "ICANN Policy staff" <policy-staff@xxxxxxxxx>, 
"ICANN robert.hoggarth" <robert.hoggarth@xxxxxxxxx>, "Paul Levins" 
<paul.levins@xxxxxxxxx>, "Kieren McCarthy" <kieren.mccarthy@xxxxxxxxx>, "Kurt 
Pritz" <kurt.pritz@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2009, 10:49 AM

Eric, et., al,

  In your post:
http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/ga-200709/msg02896.html
I believe you made some characterizations about me that are not
entirely accurate.  But I forgive you for doing so.  I would ask that
you kindly ask me prior to making an attempt to determine what my
motives are or are not in the near future please.

  I have never borne anyone ill will of any sort and do not now that
is part of engaged or ever has been engaged with ICANN in any fashion
or manner or participation however limited.  Certainly and again for the

at least 1000th time I do try to point our certain inconsistencies I see

as they relate to history, current activities of various sorts Internet,

Domain Name, or IP address related, and as in accordance with the
MOU and last update response from DOC/NTIA point out concerns
and personal experiences with lack of Transparency and openness.
I cannot, nor can anyone else demonstrate logically or reasonably
how that could be construed as offensive in any way, in fact any
rational and reasonable person would see such as CONstructive.

  My concerns about whether anyone likes me or not, is of little
consequence, but certainly I do have some care in that direction.
But I will not ever, for anyone, at any time, sacrifice my professional
duties, my principals, my legal and other educationally attained
considerations to be viewed as "Friendly" for the sake of same.
I am as our US constitution and UN resolution declares, a firm
believer in free speech and expression.  Those that oppose same
are not ever going to gain my trust or serious consideration.  I
do not believe in oligarchies of any sort, nor collective dictatorships
of any sort, be they governmental or organizationally private.  The
rule of law must prevail.  Anyone that has a problem with this
and indicates or states in whatever nuanced way or directly will
always have a problem with me and INEGroup.

  Lincoln sums it best: "Obedience of the law is the greatest
freedom" -

and Theodore Roosevelt came close as well when he stated:
"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
very often the accident of glory"

Regards,

Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 284k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
   Abraham Lincoln
"YES WE CAN!"  Barack ( Berry ) Obama

"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
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