RE: [ga] AGP Formal Resolution

[Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>]

I think this project requires as little interference as possible. Posters 
working on a thread within the project context should be given wide latitude in 
postings. Unless a problem arises that I do not anticipate we will waive 
posting limits when appropriate.
  The point is to not worry about it but spend all your time on issues at hand.
   
  Eric

Dominik Filipp <dominik.filipp@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
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  Thank you for your interest.
   
  No, the sublevel thread structure is not fixed yet. Feel free to collect and 
post other topics/issues you find worth considering in separate threads 
different from the 'catch-all' one. I'll then try to recollect them if 
necessary, or perhaps I'll prepare some categories...
   
  The only requirement here is to keep the overall number of issue-related 
threads reasonably small. Otherwise, we soon could get into confusion.

  Best regards
   
  Dominik
   
    
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  From: Michael Collins [mailto:michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 3:39 PM
To: Dominik Filipp; debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; 'Hugh Dierker'; 'Joe Baptista'
Cc: 'ga'
Subject: RE: [ga] AGP Formal Resolution


  
    Dominik,
   
  Thank you for volunteering to take on this task. It seems to me that finding 
a solution to the problem of abusive tasting probably requires consideration of 
all of the issues that have been identified and assigned to a thread. Do you 
propose that discussion of solutions for abusive tasting that take multiple 
issues into consideration use the catch all thread?
   
  GA_ISSUE-001: Domain Tasting | AGP - Additional Topics and Views
   
    Best regards,
  Michael Collins
  Internet Commerce Association

   
   
      From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of Dominik Filipp
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 7:00 AM
To: debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Hugh Dierker; Joe Baptista
Cc: ga
Subject: RE: [ga] AGP Formal Resolution


   
  Hi Debbie,
   
  Yes, you are right. This was also my intention at the very beginning. Ok, the 
newly proposed sublevel threads regarding the desired granulation and topic 
importance could be
   
  GA_ISSUE-001: Domain Tasting | AGP - Typo Corrections
  GA_ISSUE-001: Domain Tasting | AGP - Cart Hold
  GA_ISSUE-001: Domain Tasting | AGP - Fraud Remedies
  GA_ISSUE-001: Domain Tasting | AGP - Testing of Systems
  GA_ISSUE-001: Domain Tasting | AGP - Buyer's Remorse
   
  and the catch-all thread (necessary)
   
  GA_ISSUE-001: Domain Tasting | AGP - Additional Topics and Views
   
  I, personally, would not prefix the subject title by 'Draft Formal 
Resolution' text as it would make the subject title too long and difficult to 
read. Also, the five sublevels above are of generic nature and can be used for 
variety of purposes not just for the formal resolution. I would instead open 
(later on) an additional thread after collecting a sufficient number of 
contributions delivered to the five generic threads, say
   
  GA_ISSUE-001: Domain Tasting | AGP - The Formal Resolution - Draft I
   
  New threads can be opened (at the discretion of the moderator) at any time if 
desired but I would like to restrict them to a reasonable small number.
   
  Hope, I have also answered your second post.
   
  Regards
   
  Dominik
   
    
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  From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Debbie Garside
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 11:31 AM
To: 'ga'
Subject: RE: [ga] AGP Formal Resolution
  Hi Dominik
   
  This looks really good and I am quite happy with the posting levels and 
organisational details you propose.  
   
  You may like to include the thread:
   
  AGP - Draft Formal Resolution - Issue 1/2/3.... etc...
   
  sooner rather than later so that we may work on the wording of the document 
as issues are identified and agreed upon. 
   
  I would also propose that you include and manage a sub-level for the two 
threads you have proposed as I am sure there will be a number of separate 
issues pertaining to each thread.  This will make it a little easier to track 
consensus on each issue, whilst also tracking other opinions expresses and will 
ultimately assist with the writing of the Formal Resolution.
   
  Good Luck!
   
  Best wishes
   
  Debbie
   
   
     
    
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  From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Dominik Filipp
Sent: 17 April 2008 09:09
To: Hugh Dierker
Cc: ga
Subject: RE: [ga] AGP Formal Resolution
  Eric and all,
   
  Ok, thank you. I will step forward for the organizing of domain tasting 
related posts.
   
  Some my proposals
   
  1. At the beginning, I see your and the list monitors' role to justify and 
approve the daily posting limit. I would propose to go over to 10 posts per 
day/person for issue-related posts while keeping the current 5 post limit for 
other posts; that is, 15 posts/person/day collectively. Would it be ok?
   
  2. Then I, as a moderator, would initially open 2 threads with subjects
   
  GA_ISSUE-001: Domain Tasting | AGP - Registrars/Registries Concerns
  GA_ISSUE-001: Domain Tasting | AGP - Additional Topics and Views
   
  where
   
  a) "GA_ISSUE-" an issue-related-post identifier; this can be used for private 
post filtering and internal mail organization
  b) "001" - the unique code of this first 'Domain Tasting' issue (1000 - 1 
possible issues opened should be sufficient :-)
  c) "Domain Tasting | AGP" - issue | category [| subcategory...] etc.
  d) "- Registrars/Registries Concerns" - main thread topic
   
  These threads should collect facts/views/opinions on the topics prior to 
preparing the final resolution, which will be another 3. thread opened later on.
   
  Any ideas and/or wording corrections are appreciated.
   
  Dominik
   
    
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  From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Hugh Dierker
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 8:25 PM
To: ga
Subject: Re: [ga] AGP Formal Resolution
    I find nothing disagreeable here. If some one will step forward for the 
organizing of the contributions that would be our next step (I cannot organize 
my socks into same color pairs so I am not the one) If no one comes forth I 
will search out and find someone.

     

    Thank you both for your contributions.

     

    Eric

chris@xxxxxx wrote: 

      Dominik, just tell me what you want me to do. I'm all for option 3 
without the extra chatter.

     

    Chris McElroy

     

     

      ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Dominik Filipp 

    To: Hugh Dierker 

    Cc: ga@gnso.icannorg 

    Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 5:38 AM

    Subject: RE: [ga] AGP Formal Resolution

     

  Eric and others,
   
  The resolution should gain more support within the GA to achieve al least a 
certain degree of credibility.
   
  I've been taking the bull by the horns for a while but this motion shouldn't 
be a one man's show but rather a result of a comprehensible deliberation over 
the issue discussed here. It all has started quite encouragingly with number of 
Chris's, Jeff's and Karl's valuable contributions, just mentioning a few. But 
the people here have apparently started feeling frustrated and the number of 
relevant posts has decreased rapidly.
   
  I understand that everyone is already fed up with all that perpetual 
ignorance but I see three ways how to proceed further. We can let things slide, 
or chatter about everything during coffee breaks, or go into it. As for me, I 
am wavering between the first and the third option. It depends on the overall 
support gained here on the GA. Maybe some of us are feeling frustrated or a bit 
paralyzed but I think the intellectual potential presented here is a good basis 
for self-confidence. It is very likely that we were able to collect more 
evidence than all other official bodies have done so far collectively. In fact, 
only the registrars/registries were able to issue relevant arguments worth 
considering and elaborating on. The rest is mostly just a masquerade.
  There is also another dimension to consider; an attempt to build up and test 
a real bottom-up process to find out whether this is doable at all. But the 
decision is, of course, up to everyone.
   
  Ok, stop chattering now. Eric, the formal resolution will require some sort 
of minor management as well as some small modifications to take into effect. It 
is likely that once the motion gains more support the daily post limit will be 
found insufficient. Also the resulting resolution will likely be seconded and 
eventually issued as a pdf document, ok? I personally do not want to discuss 
too much over the management details but rather get it running and to 
correcting it on the fly.
   
  I can moderate this issue on the GA. The first step could be opening a thread 
on the issue. I would start with the five registrars/registries concerns 
enumerated in the official domain tasting report. Several posts sent here 
already address these concerns more in detail so those can be further discussed 
or recollected.
   
  Would it be acceptable?
   
  Dominik
   
    
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  From: Hugh Dierker [mailto:hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 12:23 AM
To: Dominik Filipp; debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ga] Formal resolution
    Dominik,

     

    Absolutely. Somehow we should start with taking our header string and 
actually narrowing it down further as there are some relevant yet innapplicable 
posts there.

    The person - selfulfilling, most interested in the matter should take the 
bull by the horns.

    I of course will be here to assist as will many other GA members. 

    We will be heard if a credible resolution is passed.

     

    Eric

    
Eric,

What about to prepare the more formal GA resolution regarding the AGP
you have proposed?
We could start collecting relevant points regarding this.

Dominik

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> From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Hugh Dierker
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 8:18 PM
> To: debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ga] List Rules

> ...

> We are at a point for the first time in months,
> that the list is coalescing into the form of
> producing a statement/motion. The AGP issue
> seems to have come to a head and more formal
> resolution procedures may be appropriate.
> I believe it is at a motion stage with 4 seconds.
> If the desire is to move forward in a constructive
> effective matter, we should hear that from the members.

> Eric
   
    
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