RE: [ga] AGP Formal Resolution

["Dominik Filipp" <dominik.filipp@xxxxxxxx>]

Michael,
 
Thank you for your interest.
 
No, the sublevel thread structure is not fixed yet. Feel free to collect
and post other topics/issues you find worth considering in separate
threads different from the 'catch-all' one. I'll then try to recollect
them if necessary, or perhaps I'll prepare some categories...
 
The only requirement here is to keep the overall number of issue-related
threads reasonably small. Otherwise, we soon could get into confusion.

Best regards
 
Dominik
 
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From: Michael Collins [mailto:michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 3:39 PM
To: Dominik Filipp; debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; 'Hugh Dierker'; 'Joe
Baptista'
Cc: 'ga'
Subject: RE: [ga] AGP Formal Resolution



Dominik,

 

Thank you for volunteering to take on this task. It seems to me that
finding a solution to the problem of abusive tasting probably requires
consideration of all of the issues that have been identified and
assigned to a thread. Do you propose that discussion of solutions for
abusive tasting that take multiple issues into consideration use the
catch all thread?

 

GA_ISSUE-001: Domain Tasting | AGP - Additional Topics and Views

 

Best regards,

Michael Collins

Internet Commerce Association <http://www.internetcommerce.org/> 

 

 

From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Dominik Filipp
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 7:00 AM
To: debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Hugh Dierker; Joe Baptista
Cc: ga
Subject: RE: [ga] AGP Formal Resolution

 

Hi Debbie,

 

Yes, you are right. This was also my intention at the very beginning.
Ok, the newly proposed sublevel threads regarding the desired
granulation and topic importance could be

 

GA_ISSUE-001: Domain Tasting | AGP - Typo Corrections

GA_ISSUE-001: Domain Tasting | AGP - Cart Hold

GA_ISSUE-001: Domain Tasting | AGP - Fraud Remedies

GA_ISSUE-001: Domain Tasting | AGP - Testing of Systems

GA_ISSUE-001: Domain Tasting | AGP - Buyer's Remorse

 

and the catch-all thread (necessary)

 

GA_ISSUE-001: Domain Tasting | AGP - Additional Topics and Views

 

I, personally, would not prefix the subject title by 'Draft Formal
Resolution' text as it would make the subject title too long and
difficult to read. Also, the five sublevels above are of generic nature
and can be used for variety of purposes not just for the formal
resolution. I would instead open (later on) an additional thread after
collecting a sufficient number of contributions delivered to the five
generic threads, say

 

GA_ISSUE-001: Domain Tasting | AGP - The Formal Resolution - Draft I

 

New threads can be opened (at the discretion of the moderator) at any
time if desired but I would like to restrict them to a reasonable small
number.

 

Hope, I have also answered your second post.

 

Regards

 

Dominik

 

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From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Debbie Garside
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 11:31 AM
To: 'ga'
Subject: RE: [ga] AGP Formal Resolution

Hi Dominik

 

This looks really good and I am quite happy with the posting levels and
organisational details you propose.  

 

You may like to include the thread:

 

AGP - Draft Formal Resolution - Issue 1/2/3.... etc...

 

sooner rather than later so that we may work on the wording of the
document as issues are identified and agreed upon. 

 

I would also propose that you include and manage a sub-level for the two
threads you have proposed as I am sure there will be a number of
separate issues pertaining to each thread.  This will make it a little
easier to track consensus on each issue, whilst also tracking other
opinions expresses and will ultimately assist with the writing of the
Formal Resolution.

 

Good Luck!

 

Best wishes

 

Debbie

 

 

         

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        From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Dominik Filipp
        Sent: 17 April 2008 09:09
        To: Hugh Dierker
        Cc: ga
        Subject: RE: [ga] AGP Formal Resolution

        Eric and all,

         

        Ok, thank you. I will step forward for the organizing of domain
tasting related posts.

         

        Some my proposals

         

        1. At the beginning, I see your and the list monitors' role to
justify and approve the daily posting limit. I would propose to go over
to 10 posts per day/person for issue-related posts while keeping the
current 5 post limit for other posts; that is, 15 posts/person/day
collectively. Would it be ok?

         

        2. Then I, as a moderator, would initially open 2 threads with
subjects

         

        GA_ISSUE-001: Domain Tasting | AGP - Registrars/Registries
Concerns

        GA_ISSUE-001: Domain Tasting | AGP - Additional Topics and Views

         

        where

         

        a) "GA_ISSUE-" an issue-related-post identifier; this can be
used for private post filtering and internal mail organization

        b) "001" - the unique code of this first 'Domain Tasting' issue
(1000 - 1 possible issues opened should be sufficient :-)

        c) "Domain Tasting | AGP" - issue | category [| subcategory...]
etc.

        d) "- Registrars/Registries Concerns" - main thread topic

         

        These threads should collect facts/views/opinions on the topics
prior to preparing the final resolution, which will be another 3. thread
opened later on.

         

        Any ideas and/or wording corrections are appreciated.

         

        Dominik

         

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        From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Hugh Dierker
        Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 8:25 PM
        To: ga
        Subject: Re: [ga] AGP Formal Resolution

        I find nothing disagreeable here. If some one will step forward
for the organizing of the contributions that would be our next step (I
cannot organize my socks into same color pairs so I am not the one) If
no one comes forth I will search out and find someone.

         

        Thank you both for your contributions.

         

        Eric
        
        chris@xxxxxx wrote: 

                Dominik, just tell me what you want me to do. I'm all
for option 3 without the extra chatter.

                 

                Chris McElroy

                 

                 

                        ----- Original Message ----- 

                        From: Dominik Filipp
<mailto:dominik.filipp@xxxxxxxx>  

                        To: Hugh Dierker <mailto:hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>


                        Cc: ga@gnso.icannorg <mailto:ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>


                        Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 5:38 AM

                        Subject: RE: [ga] AGP Formal Resolution

                         

                        Eric and others,

                         

                        The resolution should gain more support within
the GA to achieve al least a certain degree of credibility.

                         

                        I've been taking the bull by the horns for a
while but this motion shouldn't be a one man's show but rather a result
of a comprehensible deliberation over the issue discussed here. It all
has started quite encouragingly with number of Chris's, Jeff's and
Karl's valuable contributions, just mentioning a few. But the people
here have apparently started feeling frustrated and the number of
relevant posts has decreased rapidly.

                         

                        I understand that everyone is already fed up
with all that perpetual ignorance but I see three ways how to proceed
further. We can let things slide, or chatter about everything during
coffee breaks, or go into it. As for me, I am wavering between the first
and the third option. It depends on the overall support gained here on
the GA. Maybe some of us are feeling frustrated or a bit paralyzed but I
think the intellectual potential presented here is a good basis for
self-confidence. It is very likely that we were able to collect more
evidence than all other official bodies have done so far collectively.
In fact, only the registrars/registries were able to issue relevant
arguments worth considering and elaborating on. The rest is mostly just
a masquerade.

                        There is also another dimension to consider; an
attempt to build up and test a real bottom-up process to find out
whether this is doable at all. But the decision is, of course, up to
everyone.

                         

                        Ok, stop chattering now. Eric, the formal
resolution will require some sort of minor management as well as some
small modifications to take into effect. It is likely that once the
motion gains more support the daily post limit will be found
insufficient. Also the resulting resolution will likely be seconded and
eventually issued as a pdf document, ok? I personally do not want to
discuss too much over the management details but rather get it running
and to correcting it on the fly.

                         

                        I can moderate this issue on the GA. The first
step could be opening a thread on the issue. I would start with the five
registrars/registries concerns enumerated in the official domain tasting
report. Several posts sent here already address these concerns more in
detail so those can be further discussed or recollected.

                         

                        Would it be acceptable?

                         

                        Dominik

                         

________________________________

                        From: Hugh Dierker
[mailto:hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx] 
                        Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 12:23 AM
                        To: Dominik Filipp; debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        Subject: Re: [ga] Formal resolution

                        Dominik,

                         

                        Absolutely. Somehow we should start with taking
our header string and actually narrowing it down further as there are
some relevant yet innapplicable posts there.

                        The person - selfulfilling, most interested in
the matter should take the bull by the horns.

                        I of course will be here to assist as will many
other GA members. 

                        We will be heard if a credible resolution is
passed.

                         

                        Eric

                                
                                Eric,
                                
                                What about to prepare the more formal GA
resolution regarding the AGP
                                you have proposed?
                                We could start collecting relevant
points regarding this.
                                
                                Dominik
                                
                                ________________________________
                                
                                > From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
                                Behalf Of Hugh Dierker
                                > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 8:18 PM
                                > To: debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
                                > Subject: Re: [ga] List Rules
                                
                                > ...
                                
                                > We are at a point for the first time
in months,
                                > that the list is coalescing into the
form of
                                > producing a statement/motion. The AGP
issue
                                > seems to have come to a head and more
formal
                                > resolution procedures may be
appropriate.
                                > I believe it is at a motion stage with
4 seconds.
                                > If the desire is to move forward in a
constructive
                                > effective matter, we should hear that
from the members.
                                
                                > Eric

         

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