Re: [ga] Wallpapering the NTIA

["Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Roberto and all,

  After careful reading or your remarks below, I do agree in
part with your first sentence.  But it seems to me that ICANN
should be seeking public inquiry from any and all stakeholders
regarding their opinion on JPA.  I have no problem with ICANN
not having a neutral profile, but do have a problem with forming
a profile without public input regarding JPA to ICANN itself.
ICANN itself does itself as an entity, and subsequently interested
stakeholders a disservice by not seeking such input early on.

  From where we sit again, ICANN's own process or process
decisions, have failed itself, the stakeholders or other interested
parties accordingly.  Bad process yields bad results sooner or later...

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Roberto Gaetano wrote:

> Two comments on this issue.
>
> First of all, I think that there is a bit of confusion on the roles. In this
> case, ICANN is not at all conducting a public inquiry among stakeholders
> about their opinion on the JPA. If this were the case, it would be
> absolutely appropriate for ICANN keep a neutral profile, solicit opinions
> for and against, count them, provide room for individual comments, etc.
> However, the situation is that NTIA is conducting the poll, which means that
> it will be them to evaluate the matter. ICANN is in this situation not the
> judge, but one of the affected parties. And it seems pretty logical that it
> would seek support for its position, not statement of disagreement: if
> statements of disagreements are to be collected, it seems to me pretty
> natural that this task should be carried on by somebody else.
>
> Second, and maybe more interesting (at least as a theoretical speculation).
> Karl argues that this action would be at best irrelevant, if not
> counterproductive. There may be some truth in this. Speaking personally, the
> sending of multiple cloned expressions of support or opposition is something
> that is foreign to my cultural background and not my preferred way to act.
> However, I have to admit that I have seen this very often, and can't tell
> whether it is effective or not. What I can say is that I have experienced
> this flooding of photocopied statements for or against an issue: it has
> happened recently for at least one issue under debate in ICANN. Regardless
> of whether myself, or the rest of the Board, has been influenced by them, it
> seems to me that quite some people think that this could have an effect. And
> since the vast majority of those pieces of communication were originated in
> the US, I tend to think that it is rather in this socio-cultural environment
> that these actions are supposed to have some value. So, after all, since in
> this the entity at the receiving end of these messages is, in this case, an
> entity that operates in this context, why not?
>
> Anyway, independently from your opinion regarding the particular way of
> providing feedback discussed above, I would encourage all of you to comment
> in reply to the notice of inquiry at
> http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/jpamidtermreview.html.
>
> Cheers,
> Roberto
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Collins
> > Sent: Tuesday, 05 February 2008 03:06
> > To: 'General Assembly of the DNSO'
> > Subject: RE: [ga] Wallpapering the NTIA
> >
> >
> > Roberto,
> >
> > Yes, there will be other venues for criticism. It is still
> > disappointing that ICANN isn't looking for a "real" measure
> > of support by including dissenting opinions on the ICANN website.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Michael Collins
> > Internet Commerce Association
> > +1. 202 657 4570
> > +1. 407 242 9009 mobile
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roberto Gaetano
> > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 3:48 PM
> > To: 'Danny Younger'; 'General Assembly of the DNSO'
> > Subject: RE: [ga] Wallpapering the NTIA
> >
> >
> > I'm sure that people who disagree will have plenty of other
> > websites who propose critical statements.
> > Cheers,
> > Roberto
> >
>
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