Re: [ga] IDN issues (was: On Elections)

[jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]

Danny and all,

  Observer status on a WG has little or no meaning.  Without
voting status a participant is marginalized accordingly.  Of
course this is systemic to the ICANN/GNSO structure anyway.
Such restrictions reflect clearly yet again how lack of 
transparency and openness prevails within ICANN and the GNSO.
Users or registrants whom are not members of a ICANN constituency
are treated as if the were a Internet form of "Illegal Aleian".
That's hardly accountable!  Frankly our members find this diatribe
insulting and disengenious at best...

-----Original Message-----
>From: Danny Younger <dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Oct 8, 2007 11:34 AM
>To: JFC Morfin <jefsey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, sotiris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, 
>ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [ga] IDN issues (was: On Elections)
>
>
>Re:  "GA Members are not accepted in ICANN IDN
>committees:  these are reserved to Constituency
>members."
>
>Sorry, not exactly true.  Former GNSO Council Chair
>Bruce Tonkin finally allowed for the possibility of
>observers. He wrote:
>
>"There have been some suggested refinements on the
>Council mailing list to deal with potential problems. 
>At the next Council meeting I will ask the Council to
>formally endorse a policy on observers in working
>groups.  As the working groups are on a tight
>time-line, I don't want to hold up the spirit of the
>support I have received from many of the GNSO Council
>members for allowing more participation in working
>groups.
>
>So I encourage working groups to move forward on the
>following basis with respect to allowing "observers",
>who are not GNSO constituency members.
>
>"Observers: Observers shall not be members of or
>entitled to vote on the working group, but otherwise
>shall be entitled to participate on equal footing with
>members of the working group.   In particular
>observers
>will be able to join the mailing list, and attend
>teleconferences or physical meetings."
>
>To guard against some of the behaviour that can occur
>with unregulated mailing lists, observers must provide
>their real name, organisation (if associated with an
>organisation) and contact details to the GNSO
>secretariat, and the GNSO secretariat will verify at
>least their email address and phone contact
>information.   Observers will also be requested to
>provide a public statement of interest, as for working
>group members.
>
>Where a person joins an already established working
>group, this will be on the basis that it is their
>responsibility to read the existing documents, listen
>to teleconference recordings, and read the mailing
>list discussions before commenting on topics that have
>already been dealt with by the working group."
>
>Further, the ALAC IDN WG is open to all.  To
>subscribe, go to this URL: 
>http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/idn-wg_atlarge-lists.icann.org
>
>You may also wish to comment on the ALAC response to
>the GAC-CCNSO Issues Paper -- see 
>https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?alac_idn_working_group,
>
>
>       
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