Re: [council] FW: GNSO review of Third Draft Proposal

["James M. Bladel" <jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Ed:

Again, sorry for the mix up.  Thanks for collecting these links and we'll get 
this fixed ASAP.

Thank you,

J.
____________
James Bladel
GoDaddy

On Dec 26, 2015, at 05:00, Edward Morris 
<egmorris1@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:egmorris1@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Hi James,

Thanks for this.

I did receive an e-mail from one of our hard working colleagues asking if the 
NCSG opinion was not, in fact, merely a composite of the NPOC and NCUC 
opinions. Actually, the answer to that is 'no'. The noncommercial space is a 
bit different than the others to work in. Although most of our NCSG members 
belong to the NPOOC, the NCUC or both,  similar in some ways to the CSG, we do 
have members who belong to neither constituency and instead are members of the 
NCSG only, similar to members in the CPH SGs. In addition, the leadership of 
the NCSG, NPOC and NCUC are generally different and as with our Councillors, 
who are not normally bound on their votes, leaders of these groups generally 
have freedom of conscience in their actions. For example, in it's CCWG comments 
the NPOC approved of all twelve recommendations, the NCSG did not approve of 
four,  yet Sam Lanfranco, who is both the Chair of the NPOC policy committee 
and an appointee to the NCSG PC,  joined in declaring consensus approving the 
NCSG comment.

Each NCSG Councillor is elected at the SG level and is charged with 
representing on Council all members be they NPOC, NCUC or unitary NCSG members. 
In doing so, we obviously consult with the members themselves and the elected 
leadership of all three groups. I hope this better explains why certain 
structural  issues that have arisen recently might be a bit more salient for us 
in the NCSG than for Councillors from groups with a more unitary remit.

If you could re-submit your message with the noncommercial links as follows it 
would be much appreciated:

Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group (NCSG)
Survey Response - 
http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-draft-ccwg-accountability-proposal-30nov15/msg00076.html

Non-Commercial Users Constituency (NCUC), Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group
Comment - 
http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-draft-ccwg-accountability-proposal-30nov15/msg00069.html

Non-Profit Organizations Constituency (NPOC), Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group
Survey Response - 
http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-draft-ccwg-accountability-proposal-30nov15/msg00051.html


Thanks James. Here's hoping that Santa was good to you and your family and that 
everyone on Council, s well as our fine staff,  is having a wonderful and 
peaceful holiday season.

Kind Regards,

Ed Morris





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From: "James M. Bladel" <jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2015 10:34 PM
To: "Edward Morris" <egmorris1@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:egmorris1@xxxxxxxxx>>
Cc: "Marika Konings" 
<marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>>, "GNSO Council 
List" <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: Re: [council] FW: GNSO review of Third Draft Proposal

Hi Ed.

Sorry for the error. If you can send the links as you'd like them to appear, we 
will send a correction.

J.

Sent via iPhone. Blame Siri.


On Dec 24, 2015, at 16:01, Edward Morris 
<egmorris1@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:egmorris1@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:


Hi James,


Thanks for all of your hard work on this.

There is a mistake in the links section of your letter to the CCWG Chairs. The 
Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group (NCSG) and the Non-Commercial Users 
Constituency (NCUC) submitted separate public comments. They are both 
attributed, below, to the NCUC. The NCSG statement was drafted with 
participation of members of both the NCUC and NPOC and was endorsed by the 
policy committee of the NCSG, which consists  of representatives of both 
constituencies. The NCUC and NPOC statements  were drafted by and endorsed by 
the appropriate committees of each constituency.

Although similar in content (as are to each other the three statements 
submitted by members of the Commercial Stakeholders Group) there are 
differences between the three noncommercial comments that should be 
acknowledged and properly respected as we begin the process of consolidation. I 
realize that it is rare for the three non-commercial entities to all submit 
comments on a topic yet when there are differences in approach, such as here, 
it does happen.

I would respectfully request that your letter be corrected and re-sent. I 
certainly don't want the Chairs or one of us to skip over a full set of 
comments on the mistaken belief that the NCUC sent the same set of comments to 
the list in different forms when, in fact, that is not the case. One of the 
comments attributed to the NCUC is actually a submission by the NCSG.

Thanks,

Ed Morris


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 24, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Marika Konings 
<marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

For your information.

Best regards,

Marika

From: Marika Konings <marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>>
Date: Thursday 24 December 2015 at 10:55
To: Le?n Felipe S?nchez Amb?a 
<leonfelipe@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:leonfelipe@xxxxxxxxxx>>, Mathieu Weill 
<mathieu.weill@xxxxxxxx<mailto:mathieu.weill@xxxxxxxx>>, Thomas Rickert 
<thomas@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:thomas@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
Cc: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:grace.abuhamad@xxxxxxxxx>>, 
Alice Jansen <alice.jansen@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:alice.jansen@xxxxxxxxx>>, "James M. 
Bladel" <jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: GNSO review of Third Draft Proposal

Sending on behalf of James Bladel, GNSO Chair:

CCWG-ACCT Co-Chairs
Re: GNSO Review of Third Draft Proposal
24 DEC 2015


Dear Mathieu, Thomas, and Leon:

Earlier this week, 21 Dec 2015, marked the close of the Public Comment period 
covering the Third CCWG-Accountability Draft Proposal. Unfortunately, due to 
the size and diversity of the organizations that comprise the GNSO, and the 
compressed time frame, we were unable to develop a unified GNSO response to the 
12 Recommendations of the CCWG-Accountability by the close of the comment 
period.

Listed below are links to comments and survey responses submitted on behalf of 
GNSO Stakeholder Groups (SGs) and Constituencies (Cs).  Additional submissions 
were made on behalf of individuals and organizations that participate in the 
GNSO from within one or more SG/C.  We have formed a team tasked with analyzing 
these responses, and using them to draft a harmonized position for 
consideration by the GNSO Council in a special session convening on 14 January 
2016 Presuming this position is successfully adopted, it will be transmitted to 
you immediately following this session.

Once again, please accept our gratitude for dedication and patience in 
shepherding this enormous and historic work unit over the past year.  We are 
very near the finish line, and look forward to further contributing our 
thoughts to this document, and the Final CCWG-Accountability Proposal.

Thank you,

James Bladel
GNSO Chair


Registry Stakeholder Group (RySG):

Comment - 
http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-draft-ccwg-accountability-proposal-30nov15/msg00035.html
Survey Response - 
http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-draft-ccwg-accountability-proposal-30nov15/msg00034.html

Registrar Stakeholder Group (RrSG)
Comment - 
http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-draft-ccwg-accountability-proposal-30nov15/msg00084.html

Intellectual Property Interests Constituency (IPC), Commercial Stakeholder Group
http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-draft-ccwg-accountability-proposal-30nov15/msg00100.html

Internet Service Providers Constituency (ISPC), Commercial Stakeholder Group
Survey Response - 
http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-draft-ccwg-accountability-proposal-30nov15/msg00046.html

Commercial and Business Users Constituency (BC), Commercial Stakeholder Group
http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-draft-ccwg-accountability-proposal-30nov15/msg00064.html

Non-Commercial Users Constituency (NCUC), Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group
Comment - 
http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-draft-ccwg-accountability-proposal-30nov15/msg00069.html
Survey Response - 
http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-draft-ccwg-accountability-proposal-30nov15/msg00076.html

Non-Profit Organizations Constituency (NPOC), Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group
Survey Response - 
http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-draft-ccwg-accountability-proposal-30nov15/msg00051.html