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Re: [council] ICANN Academy message
Mary, Bill,
Because if we say it like that, to me it sounds implicitly like we have already
signed off on the academy.
I did not get that as being a Council-wide position from our discussions on
this yesterday.
What I heard was that some are strongly in favor, and some are strongly
cautious (no-one seemed strongly against).
So my message was an attempt at balancing those two positions, without coming
across as being negative.
Perhaps I should at this stage disclose that in my own personal opinion, the
academy is a good idea. I realize that in my drive to earnestly represent the
Council's view and bury my own, which is the approach I've always had to being
Chair of this group, I did not even provide my own views. I am doing so now
just for the sake of full disclosure but of course, I will not carry my own
views into the WG discussions, only the Council's.
Thanks,
Stéphane Van Gelder
Directeur Général / General manager
INDOM Group NBT France
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Le 11 mai 2012 à 08:18, William Drake a écrit :
> Hi Stephane,
>
> I agree with Mary, particularly in light of prior disconnects on CWGs, the
> tone is a bit negative as a first reaction. It almost sounds like we think
> it's up to the GNSO Council to decide whether this goes forward so they must
> satisfy us. Of course there will have to be a discussion in the WG in which
> the budgetary and other implications are addressed and those participants
> that haven't had a chance yet to ponder the proposal can raise any questions
> they have about the rationale. And if ultimately some SGs decide they're
> unpersuaded, that will have to be taken on board by the Board. So why not
> just say we look forward to participating and learning more about it? In the
> event you think "establishment of" is too loaded in the other direction,
> perhaps "The GNSO Council looks forward to participating in the community
> discussion concerning the proposed ICANN Academy" would suffice?
>
> Best,
>
> Bill
>
> On May 11, 2012, at 5:31 AM, <Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx> <Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> Stephane, I think the first message could come across as arrogant to folks
>> who did not follow today's discussion, particularly given recent
>> sensitivities regarding CWGs. May I suggest something along the lines of the
>> sub-message to proposed message 1 being the main message, and the main
>> message becoming the sub, phrased as "The GNSO Council looks forward to
>> participating in the community discussion concerning the establishment of
>> the ICANN Academy"?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mary
>>
>>
>> Mary W S Wong
>> Professor of Law
>> Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP
>> Chair, Graduate IP Programs
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>>
>> >>>
>> From:
>> Stéphane Van Gelder<stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To:
>> GNSO Council List <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Date:
>> 5/10/2012 3:59 PM
>> Subject:
>> [council] ICANN Academy message
>>
>> All,
>>
>> As mentioned during our meeting today, I would like to write down a few
>> baseline points to take to the Icann academy WG as being Council positions
>> or items on which the Council is comfortable it wants answers for.
>>
>> To get this started, here are my suggestion. Please comment, add or edit as
>> required.
>>
>> Message 1 to the WG: There should be no discussions on a possible curriculum
>> until there has first been discussion (and consensus among the different
>> community reps in the WG) on whether the academy itself should be created.
>> GNSO sub-message to message 1: The GNSO Council agrees the concept of an
>> academy to help newcomers get to grips with the ICANN world is a good idea.
>> But there needs to be clear guidelines on finance, budget and implementation.
>>
>> Message 2 to the WG: Once it has been determined that the concept of an
>> academy is one that should be pushed forward, is willing to provide
>> background material and support in helping academy attendees understand the
>> intricacies of the GNSO and welcomes any suggestions from the WG on what
>> type of material is needed.
>>
>> Please let me have other suggestions. Thanks.
>>
>> Stéphane Van Gelder
>> Directeur Général / General manager
>> INDOM Group NBT France
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>> Head of Domain Operations
>> Group NBT
>>
>>
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