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Re: [council] ICANN Academy message

Hi Stephane,

I agree with Mary, particularly in light of prior disconnects on CWGs, the tone 
is a bit negative as a first reaction. It almost sounds like we think it's up 
to the GNSO Council to decide whether this goes forward so they must satisfy 
us.  Of course there will have to be a discussion in the WG in which the 
budgetary and other implications are addressed and those participants that 
haven't had a chance yet to ponder the proposal can raise any questions they 
have about the rationale.  And if ultimately some SGs decide they're 
unpersuaded, that will have to be taken on board by the Board.  So why not just 
say we look forward to participating and learning more about it? In the event 
you think "establishment of" is too loaded in the other direction, perhaps "The 
GNSO Council looks forward to participating in the community discussion 
concerning the proposed ICANN Academy" would suffice?



On May 11, 2012, at 5:31 AM, <Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx> <Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx> 

> Stephane, I think the first message could come across as arrogant to folks 
> who did not follow today's discussion, particularly given recent 
> sensitivities regarding CWGs. May I suggest something along the lines of the 
> sub-message to proposed message 1 being the main message, and the main 
> message becoming the sub, phrased as "The GNSO Council looks forward to 
> participating in the community discussion concerning the establishment of the 
> ICANN Academy"?
> Cheers
> Mary
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> Stéphane Van Gelder<stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>                  
> To:
> GNSO Council List <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date:
> 5/10/2012 3:59 PM
> Subject:
> [council] ICANN Academy message
> All,
> As mentioned during our meeting today, I would like to write down a few 
> baseline points to take to the Icann academy WG as being Council positions or 
> items on which the Council is comfortable it wants answers for.
> To get this started, here are my suggestion. Please comment, add or edit as 
> required.
> Message 1 to the WG: There should be no discussions on a possible curriculum 
> until there has first been discussion (and consensus among the different 
> community reps in the WG) on whether the academy itself should be created.
> GNSO sub-message to message 1:  The GNSO Council agrees the concept of an 
> academy to help newcomers get to grips with the ICANN world is a good idea. 
> But there needs to be clear guidelines on finance, budget and implementation.
> Message 2 to the WG: Once it has been determined that the concept of an 
> academy is one that should be pushed forward, is willing to provide 
> background material and support in helping academy attendees understand the 
> intricacies of the GNSO and welcomes any suggestions from the WG on what type 
> of material is needed.
> Please let me have other suggestions. Thanks.
> Stéphane Van Gelder
> Directeur Général / General manager
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