Re: [ga] At Large

[Joop Teernstra <terastra@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

At 02:47 a.m. 27/06/2004, Hugh Dierker wrote:
> So Jefsey's recent comments got me looking back at the atlarge concepts.
> Where did they go? Are they still there in splintered community groups?

Some of the last coup plotters went, but the rest is still there, waiting 
for a "bottom-up" leader to emerge

> What is going on with Esters (or is it Madonna's) at large or in that case 
> maybe "at small"?

You mean ALAC.
It's Vittorio/Roessler as active volunteers and paid staff Michelle and a 
small list of small approved organizations.

> Is the issuance or holding of a domain name still an issue of membership?

For icannatlarge it is not, (but it would be a handy restriction to keep 
the membership verified.)

> Are there any more whispers of atlarge elections?

More than that. Nominations are open for new panel members. There is now a 
ratified set of rules giving a precise mandate to a panel that controls the 
content of the web site . See http://www.icannatlarge.com/results_jan_2004.htm


> Well they are still there but standing almost frozen in time.  There are 
> no hot issues burning.  There is no hope. Apathy appears to be the only 
> blood flowing. Kind of like dinosaur skeletons erected in a museum, held 
> up by websites with no flesh.

You can't stop evolution. The mammals are found at www.icannatlarge.com :-)

This is still the site where the members registration works and where 
registered members get Polling Booth ballot emails.
The members polled judged in majority that it was better to work on 
structure and process first, before "activism first" and becoming too 
attractive for political or commercial capture.
See http://www.icannatlarge.com/pollresultsJune2004.htm

> In fact it is kind of eery going around and looking at them. Atlarge 
> gambling groups far outnumber Internet atlarge groups on the net.
> I got the feeling I was looking at evening newspapers in twenty years, 
> gone but not yet forgotten.
>
> I did note that Iraq was listed on the Asian atlarge 
> site 
> <http://atlarge.freewebpage.org/countries.htm>http://atlarge.freewebpage.org/countries.htm
>
> And that powergrabs and lack of money seems to be what caused this extinction.

Why pronounce its extinction? ?

All you need is procedures and a structure that guarantee continuity. Rule 
of Law, not personalities. There are still people, myself included, who are 
willing to work on that.

Money for a permanent cyber-secretariat would certainly help, and you are 
right that the personal attacks and attempted power grabs have  sapped 
morale on the mailing list where they took place.


Fresh and patient blood is welcome. Be part of the evolution.


--Joop--
icannatlarge Independent Polling Commission member
www.icannatlarge.com
www.icannatlarge.org