RE: [registrars] DROA Notice

[Tim Ruiz <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

> The transfer policy provides substantial protection for
> registrants, in the form of locks and other mechanisms.

Agree, for the most part. It could be more substantial. BTW, when do you
expect that the Transfers WG will get active again?

> The notion that registrars are going to manually verify for
> each transfer out and cancel those that are inappropriate 
> is about as ridiculous...

Not true. We were successfully doing just that. What the policy has done
is taken away that choice from registrars who are capable of doing just
that.

Tim Ruiz
VP, Domain Services
The Go Daddy Group, Inc.
Office: 319-294-3940
Fax: 480-247-4516
tim@xxxxxxxxxxx


 
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [registrars] DROA Notice
From: Ross Rader <ross@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, November 09, 2005 6:18 am
To: Jim Archer <jarcher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: John Berryhill <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'Registrars
Constituency'" <registrars@xxxxxxxx>

Jim Archer wrote:
> Part of the problem is that ICANN has created a transfer policy, with 
> the support of this constituency, that promotes exactly this type of 
> activity. We get frequent support calls from customers who have been 
> tricked and are upset about it.
> 
> Registrars should be the primary point of contact with their customers.  
> We know our customers and how to contact them.  We should be allowed to 
> deny a transfer if our customer does not affirmatively allow it.  If a 
> registrar was allowed to protect their customers, then the Panix 
> situation never would have happened and registrars could rightly claim 
> to be a protector of the customer's property.

Both of your contentions are factually incorrect Jim. Transfer fraud 
preys on uninformed registrants. Hijackings exploit implementation flaws

at a local level. The transfer policy provides substantial protection 
for registrants, in the form of locks and other mechanisms. Do you use 
these mechanisms to help your customers protect themselves? The notion 
that registrars are going to manually verify each transfer out and 
cancel those that are inappropriate is about as ridiculous that every 
registrant is going to proactively lock their domain name, use a strong 
password and not pay renewal fees to third parties they've never heard
of.

-ross