RE: [registrars] Nomination of Jay Westerdal for RC Treasurer

["Donna McGehee" <dmcgehee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Elliot and all, 
	Yes, BR does partner SnapNames, however, I do not consider this
a conflict with my recent nomination for Treasurer.  I accepted the
nomination because I know I would be competent in the position, adding
value to the RC with my current and past experiences.  
 
Donna McGehee

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of elliot noss
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 2:52 PM
To: Jay Westerdal
Cc: registrars@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [registrars] Nomination of Jay Westerdal for RC Treasurer


My apologies for directing this only to you. It absolutely should be 
something that all, including Donna, should address. It sounds like that

has already happened.

I do indeed think that the renting or selling of threads is a conflict 
of interest. I will note that renting them to an accredited registrar 
would be somewhat different than to a non-member of the constituency. If

anyone cares, I am happy to expand on why I think so.

Conflict of interest is about the perception of bias, not actual bias, 
and a conflict of interest statement is about presenting publicly all 
circumstances where bias may be perceived.

For my purposes your explaination below is great. Thanks.

Regards

Jay Westerdal wrote:

> Elliot,
> All of us generate revenue from our accreditation in different ways. 
> We all have different business models.
> 
> Name Intelligence got accredited due to Afilias's whois system. 
> Afilias explained to us that they have no relationship with our 
> company and that we were outside of the scope of their company 
> contract with ICANN. Even though they like our stats they can not pick

> and choose who to help or allow us selected access to a thin whois 
> with only registrar of record. They can't even release stats 
> themselves, that is why our company feels it is important to collect 
> these stats. The contract they have with ICANN has several hundred 
> pages and didn't allow them to pick and choose who they enforced whois

> query limits on. The one field we needed from Afilias was the 
> Registrar of record for the domain. Registries with thin whois have no

> problem giving this information out, but companies with thick whois 
> have more fields to protect and stronger and longer contracts with 
> ICANN. With EPP access it allows us a thinner view and tells us who 
> the Registrar is. Our Name Suggestion technology and Registrar Stats 
> require access to find out the status of the domain and who the 
> registrar is.
> 
> ICANN doesn't have a system for companies that don't fit inside the 
> box. So instead of waiting for ICANN to define more boxes we decided 
> to jump inside the box; the ICANN box that best fit us was the 
> Registrar box since that gave us access so that we could continue to 
> report statistics on .INFO and .ORG (run by Afilias) TLDs.
> 
> I see no conflict with the issue of threads, and I think if you want 
> to make it an issue. That to be fair we should ask any question to all

> applicants of any position in the RC not just one. Many registrar also

> generates revenue in other ways from its threads. Many do. For 
> example, at whois-search.com/deleting/who.php it shows that 
> BulkRegister (Donna) sell/rent threads to SnapNames.
> 
> Yes, Name Intelligence has made the decision to outsource its threads.

> Sorry for the long answer to a simple question but I hope I answered 
> your question and maybe some of the thoughts behind your question. :)
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Jay Westerdal
> Name Intelligence, Inc.
> http://www.nameintelligence.com/
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elliot noss [mailto:enoss@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 9:31 AM
> To: Jay Westerdal
> Cc: registrars@xxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [registrars] Nomination of Jay Westerdal for RC Treasurer
> 
> 
> Do you sell/rent your threads to another company? We don't care about 
> who or how much.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Jay Westerdal wrote:
> 
> 
>>I accept the nomination, and if elected I will gladly serve.
>>
>>I am a representative for Name Intelligence.  I started working with 
>>the domain industry in 1998 with Interland, Inc. as head of domain 
>>registrations. In 2001, I left Interland and started Name 
>>Intelligence.
> 
> Name
> 
>>Intelligence works to create Registrar service. Name Intelligence list

>>of Registrars using our services is available on our home page at 
>>http://www.nameintelligence.com  In December of 2003, Name 
>>Intelligence
> 
> was
> 
>>accredited by ICANN as a Registrar. We are not the typical Registrar, 
>>we mostly use our EPP and RRP access so that we can design Registrar
> 
> services.
> 
>>I am not associated with any Registry and have no conflict of interest
> 
> which
> 
>>would preclude me from this position.
>>
>>Jay Westerdal
>>Name Intelligence, Inc.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>[mailto:owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Elana Broitman
>>Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 6:02 AM
>>To: Bhavin Turakhia; Tim Ruiz; Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland 
>>Maine; registrars@xxxxxxxx
>>Cc: Divyank Turakhia
>>Subject: RE: [registrars] Nomination of Jay Westerdal for RC Treasurer
>>
>>
>>We how have a second nomination for Treasurer - Jay, please provide a 
>>statement of conflict of interest and accept if you are interested.
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Elana Broitman
>>Register.com
>>575 Eighth Avenue
>>New York, NY 10018
>>Phone (212) 798-9215
>>
>>
>>>EFax  (800) 886-2716
>>
>>Fax   (212) 629-9309
>>ebroitman@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>[mailto:owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Bhavin Turakhia
>>Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 3:48 AM
>>To: 'Tim Ruiz'; 'Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine'; 
>>registrars@xxxxxxxx
>>Cc: 'Divyank Turakhia'
>>Subject: RE: [registrars] Nomination of Jay Westerdal for RC Treasurer
>>
>>
>>
>>I support Jays nomination too ....
>>
>>- bhavin
>>
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>[mailto:owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim Ruiz
>>>Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 5:39 AM
>>>To: 'Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine'; registrars@xxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: RE: [registrars] Nomination of Jay Westerdal for RC 
>>>Treasurer
>>>
>>>
>>>I second this nomination of Jay Westerdal.
>>>
>>>Tim Ruiz
>>>Go Daddy Software, Inc.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>[mailto:owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Eric 
>>>Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine
>>>Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 10:30 AM
>>>To: registrars@xxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: [registrars] Nomination of Jay Westerdal for RC Treasurer
>>>
>>>I nominate Jay Westerdal for RC Treasurer.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
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