RE: [registrars] Nomination of Jay Westerdal for RC Treasurer

["Jay Westerdal" <jwesterdal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Rick,
We use EPP to check availablity and figure out what registrar
owns a domain. That is all we use it for.

Jay

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Wesson [mailto:wessorh@xxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 11:44 AM
To: Jay Westerdal
Cc: elliot noss; registrars@xxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [registrars] Nomination of Jay Westerdal for RC Treasurer



Jay,

Do you use your accreditiation to mine thick registries data?

-rick



On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, Jay Westerdal wrote:

> Elliot,
> All of us generate revenue from our accreditation in different ways.
> We all have different business models.
>
> Name Intelligence got accredited due to Afilias's whois system.
> Afilias explained to us that they have no relationship with our
> company and that we were outside of the scope of their company
> contract with ICANN. Even though they like our stats they can
> not pick and choose who to help or allow us selected access to
> a thin whois with only registrar of record. They can't even
> release stats themselves, that is why our company feels it is
> important to collect these stats. The contract they have with
> ICANN has several hundred pages and didn't allow them to pick and
> choose who they enforced whois query limits on. The one field we
> needed from Afilias was the Registrar of record for the domain.
> Registries with thin whois have no problem giving this information
> out, but companies with thick whois have more fields to protect
> and stronger and longer contracts with ICANN. With EPP access it
> allows us a thinner view and tells us who the Registrar is. Our
> Name Suggestion technology and Registrar Stats require access to
> find out the status of the domain and who the registrar is.
>
> ICANN doesn't have a system for companies that don't fit inside the
> box. So instead of waiting for ICANN to define more boxes we decided
> to jump inside the box; the ICANN box that best fit us was the
> Registrar box since that gave us access so that we could continue to
> report statistics on .INFO and .ORG (run by Afilias) TLDs.
>
> I see no conflict with the issue of threads, and I think if you
> want to make it an issue. That to be fair we should ask any question
> to all applicants of any position in the RC not just one. Many
> registrar also generates revenue in other ways from its threads.
> Many do. For example, at whois-search.com/deleting/who.php
> it shows that BulkRegister (Donna) sell/rent threads to SnapNames.
>
> Yes, Name Intelligence has made the decision to outsource its threads.
> Sorry for the long answer to a simple question but I hope I answered
> your question and maybe some of the thoughts behind your question. :)
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Jay Westerdal
> Name Intelligence, Inc.
> http://www.nameintelligence.com/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elliot noss [mailto:enoss@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 9:31 AM
> To: Jay Westerdal
> Cc: registrars@xxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [registrars] Nomination of Jay Westerdal for RC Treasurer
>
>
> Do you sell/rent your threads to another company? We don't care about
> who or how much.
>
> Regards
>
> Jay Westerdal wrote:
>
> > I accept the nomination, and if elected I will gladly serve.
> >
> > I am a representative for Name Intelligence.  I started working with the
> > domain industry in 1998 with Interland, Inc. as head of domain
> > registrations. In 2001, I left Interland and started Name Intelligence.
> Name
> > Intelligence works to create Registrar service. Name Intelligence list
of
> > Registrars using our services is available on our home page at
> > http://www.nameintelligence.com  In December of 2003, Name Intelligence
> was
> > accredited by ICANN as a Registrar. We are not the typical Registrar, we
> > mostly use our EPP and RRP access so that we can design Registrar
> services.
> >
> > I am not associated with any Registry and have no conflict of interest
> which
> > would preclude me from this position.
> >
> > Jay Westerdal
> > Name Intelligence, Inc.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Elana Broitman
> > Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 6:02 AM
> > To: Bhavin Turakhia; Tim Ruiz; Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine;
> > registrars@xxxxxxxx
> > Cc: Divyank Turakhia
> > Subject: RE: [registrars] Nomination of Jay Westerdal for RC Treasurer
> >
> >
> > We how have a second nomination for Treasurer - Jay, please provide a
> > statement of conflict of interest and accept if you are interested.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Elana Broitman
> > Register.com
> > 575 Eighth Avenue
> > New York, NY 10018
> > Phone (212) 798-9215
> >
> >>EFax  (800) 886-2716
> >
> > Fax   (212) 629-9309
> > ebroitman@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Bhavin Turakhia
> > Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 3:48 AM
> > To: 'Tim Ruiz'; 'Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine';
> > registrars@xxxxxxxx
> > Cc: 'Divyank Turakhia'
> > Subject: RE: [registrars] Nomination of Jay Westerdal for RC Treasurer
> >
> >
> >
> > I support Jays nomination too ....
> >
> > - bhavin
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>[mailto:owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim Ruiz
> >>Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 5:39 AM
> >>To: 'Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine'; registrars@xxxxxxxx
> >>Subject: RE: [registrars] Nomination of Jay Westerdal for RC Treasurer
> >>
> >>
> >>I second this nomination of Jay Westerdal.
> >>
> >>Tim Ruiz
> >>Go Daddy Software, Inc.
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>[mailto:owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Eric
> >>Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine
> >>Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 10:30 AM
> >>To: registrars@xxxxxxxx
> >>Subject: [registrars] Nomination of Jay Westerdal for RC Treasurer
> >>
> >>I nominate Jay Westerdal for RC Treasurer.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> --
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