Re: [registrars] Nomination of Jay Westerdal for RC Treasurer
My apologies for directing this only to you. It absolutely should be something that all, including Donna, should address. It sounds like that has already happened. I do indeed think that the renting or selling of threads is a conflict of interest. I will note that renting them to an accredited registrar would be somewhat different than to a non-member of the constituency. If anyone cares, I am happy to expand on why I think so. Conflict of interest is about the perception of bias, not actual bias, and a conflict of interest statement is about presenting publicly all circumstances where bias may be perceived. For my purposes your explaination below is great. Thanks. Regards Jay Westerdal wrote: Elliot, All of us generate revenue from our accreditation in different ways. We all have different business models. Name Intelligence got accredited due to Afilias's whois system. Afilias explained to us that they have no relationship with our company and that we were outside of the scope of their company contract with ICANN. Even though they like our stats they can not pick and choose who to help or allow us selected access to a thin whois with only registrar of record. They can't even release stats themselves, that is why our company feels it is important to collect these stats. The contract they have with ICANN has several hundred pages and didn't allow them to pick and choose who they enforced whois query limits on. The one field we needed from Afilias was the Registrar of record for the domain. Registries with thin whois have no problem giving this information out, but companies with thick whois have more fields to protect and stronger and longer contracts with ICANN. With EPP access it allows us a thinner view and tells us who the Registrar is. Our Name Suggestion technology and Registrar Stats require access to find out the status of the domain and who the registrar is. ICANN doesn't have a system for companies that don't fit inside the box. So instead of waiting for ICANN to define more boxes we decided to jump inside the box; the ICANN box that best fit us was the Registrar box since that gave us access so that we could continue to report statistics on .INFO and .ORG (run by Afilias) TLDs. I see no conflict with the issue of threads, and I think if you want to make it an issue. That to be fair we should ask any question to all applicants of any position in the RC not just one. Many registrar also generates revenue in other ways from its threads. Many do. For example, at whois-search.com/deleting/who.php it shows that BulkRegister (Donna) sell/rent threads to SnapNames. Yes, Name Intelligence has made the decision to outsource its threads. Sorry for the long answer to a simple question but I hope I answered your question and maybe some of the thoughts behind your question. :) Best Regards, Jay Westerdal Name Intelligence, Inc. http://www.nameintelligence.com/ -----Original Message----- From: elliot noss [mailto:enoss@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 9:31 AM To: Jay Westerdal Cc: registrars@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [registrars] Nomination of Jay Westerdal for RC Treasurer Do you sell/rent your threads to another company? We don't care about who or how much. Regards Jay Westerdal wrote:I accept the nomination, and if elected I will gladly serve. I am a representative for Name Intelligence. I started working with the domain industry in 1998 with Interland, Inc. as head of domain registrations. In 2001, I left Interland and started Name Intelligence.NameIntelligence works to create Registrar service. Name Intelligence list of Registrars using our services is available on our home page at http://www.nameintelligence.com In December of 2003, Name Intelligencewasaccredited by ICANN as a Registrar. We are not the typical Registrar, we mostly use our EPP and RRP access so that we can design Registrarservices.I am not associated with any Registry and have no conflict of interestwhichwould preclude me from this position. Jay Westerdal Name Intelligence, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Elana Broitman Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 6:02 AM To: Bhavin Turakhia; Tim Ruiz; Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine; registrars@xxxxxxxx Cc: Divyank Turakhia Subject: RE: [registrars] Nomination of Jay Westerdal for RC Treasurer We how have a second nomination for Treasurer - Jay, please provide a statement of conflict of interest and accept if you are interested. Thanks Elana Broitman Register.com 575 Eighth Avenue New York, NY 10018 Phone (212) 798-9215EFax (800) 886-2716Fax (212) 629-9309 ebroitman@xxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Bhavin Turakhia Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 3:48 AM To: 'Tim Ruiz'; 'Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine'; registrars@xxxxxxxx Cc: 'Divyank Turakhia' Subject: RE: [registrars] Nomination of Jay Westerdal for RC Treasurer I support Jays nomination too .... - bhavin-----Original Message----- From: owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim Ruiz Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 5:39 AM To: 'Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine'; registrars@xxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [registrars] Nomination of Jay Westerdal for RC Treasurer I second this nomination of Jay Westerdal. Tim Ruiz Go Daddy Software, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 10:30 AM To: registrars@xxxxxxxx Subject: [registrars] Nomination of Jay Westerdal for RC Treasurer I nominate Jay Westerdal for RC Treasurer.-- Elliot Noss Tucows Inc. 416-538-5494 enoss.blogware.com -- Elliot Noss Tucows Inc. 416-538-5494 enoss.blogware.com
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