RE: [registrars] Domain renewal spamming

["Tim Ruiz" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Larry and all,

The Domain Registry of America signed up for a reseller account with Wild
West Domains under an assumed name.  Once it became clear that the new
reseller was really the DRoA, Wild West immediately gave them an ultimatum:
either cease and desist the deceptive mailings, or your reseller privileges
will be terminated.  Because DRoA continued to send the deceptive mailings,
even after promising to stop, Wild West has taken steps to terminate their
reseller business.  Wild West is strongly opposed to deceptive domain name
renewal notices and will not tolerate such activity from its resellers.  As
most people know, Wild West's sister company, Go Daddy, successfully sued
VeriSign over similar deceptive notices and took a leadership position on
the issue to clean up the renewal process.  Wild West and Go Daddy have no
intention of tolerating deceptive advertising in the domain name space and
will continue to fight for straight forward advertising requirements.

Tim


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Larry Erlich
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 3:19 PM
To: Paul Stahura
Cc: 'Christopher Kruk'; Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine;
registrars@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [registrars] Domain renewal spamming 

Paul Stahura wrote:
> 
> I believe that is probably because they do use eNom to do new
registrations,
> which, AFAIK, no one is complaining about.

A person answering their 866 number said they
use Wild West Domains, a Godaddy company.

http://www.hostchart.com/host_interview_wwd.asp

Larry Erlich

http://www.DomainRegistry.com


> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: root@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:root@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
> Larry Erlich
> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 12:57 PM
> To: Paul Stahura
> Cc: 'Christopher Kruk'; Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine;
> registrars@xxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [registrars] Domain renewal spamming
> 
> Paul Stahura wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone heard DROA is actually Osama Bin Laden?
> >
> > Chris, why don't you send the email you speak of to the list?
> > We should all be aware of it, or are you just creating one of
> > the many urban legends surrounding DROA?
> >
> > Regardless, in case you do not already know the following fact
> > (I know some registrars do):
> >
> > DROA is not using eNom to perform transfers.
> 
> Paul, they are still referring to you
> in their registration agreement:
> 
> https://www.droa.com/regpol.asp
> 
> "This Registration Agreement ("Agreement") sets forth the terms and
> conditions of your use of this domain name registration service to
> register an Internet domain name, your registration of that domain name,
> as well as other domain name related services. In this Agreement "you"
> and "your" refer to each customer and "we", "us" and "our" refer to
> eNom, Inc. ("Registrar"), the ICANN accredited Registrar and DRoA,
> through which the services are being offered. This Agreement"
> 
> <cut>
> 
> Larry Erlich
> 
> http://www.DomainRegistry.com
> 
> >
> > Has anyone heard they are using Chris Kruk and DomainPeople?
> > :)
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Christopher Kruk
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 9:04 AM
> > To: Larry Erlich; Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine
> > Cc: registrars@xxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [registrars] Domain renewal spamming
> >
> > We receive complaints from confused angry customers almost daily
regarding
> > this. Has
> > anyone heard about how they send out an email asking to visit a link to
> > confirm the
> > customer's correct email address? The link is actually a transfer
> > confirmation. We are
> > seriously considering corrective action on behalf of our customers.
> >
> > I find it hard to believe a Registrar is not aware of this type of
> > deceptive use of their DNR
> > Reseller facilities.
> >
> >   -Chris
> >
> > At 10:27 AM 3/9/2004, Larry Erlich wrote:
> > >Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The Domain Registry of America ...
> > > >
> > > > Looks like its that time of year. I came home and found one of their
> > posts
> > > > waiting for me.
> > > >
> > > > This is one example of the kind of fraud we could significantly
> reduce.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone from ENOM want to claim DROA isn't on the wrong side of the
> > ethical
> > > > practices line?
> > > >
> > > > Eric
> > >
> > >There is more to this story. As you can imagine,
> > >because of the similar name,
> > >we get a fair amount of calls from people that
> > >want their $85 or $25 refunded for a transfer that
> > >doesn't go through. It seems that they immediately charge
> > >a credit card upon placing the order and only refund
> > >money if specifically asked and after a waiting period. At
> > >least this is what I am told by their "customers".
> > >
> > >Larry Erlich
> > >
> > >http://www.DomainRegistry.com
> > >
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> > >Larry Erlich - DomainRegistry.com, Inc.
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