Re: [registrars] Domain renewal spamming

[Larry Erlich <erlich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Paul Stahura wrote:
> 
> I believe that is probably because they do use eNom to do new registrations,
> which, AFAIK, no one is complaining about.

A person answering their 866 number said they
use Wild West Domains, a Godaddy company.

http://www.hostchart.com/host_interview_wwd.asp

Larry Erlich

http://www.DomainRegistry.com


> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: root@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:root@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Larry Erlich
> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 12:57 PM
> To: Paul Stahura
> Cc: 'Christopher Kruk'; Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine;
> registrars@xxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [registrars] Domain renewal spamming
> 
> Paul Stahura wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone heard DROA is actually Osama Bin Laden?
> >
> > Chris, why don't you send the email you speak of to the list?
> > We should all be aware of it, or are you just creating one of
> > the many urban legends surrounding DROA?
> >
> > Regardless, in case you do not already know the following fact
> > (I know some registrars do):
> >
> > DROA is not using eNom to perform transfers.
> 
> Paul, they are still referring to you
> in their registration agreement:
> 
> https://www.droa.com/regpol.asp
> 
> "This Registration Agreement ("Agreement") sets forth the terms and
> conditions of your use of this domain name registration service to
> register an Internet domain name, your registration of that domain name,
> as well as other domain name related services. In this Agreement "you"
> and "your" refer to each customer and "we", "us" and "our" refer to
> eNom, Inc. ("Registrar"), the ICANN accredited Registrar and DRoA,
> through which the services are being offered. This Agreement"
> 
> <cut>
> 
> Larry Erlich
> 
> http://www.DomainRegistry.com
> 
> >
> > Has anyone heard they are using Chris Kruk and DomainPeople?
> > :)
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Christopher Kruk
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 9:04 AM
> > To: Larry Erlich; Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine
> > Cc: registrars@xxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [registrars] Domain renewal spamming
> >
> > We receive complaints from confused angry customers almost daily regarding
> > this. Has
> > anyone heard about how they send out an email asking to visit a link to
> > confirm the
> > customer's correct email address? The link is actually a transfer
> > confirmation. We are
> > seriously considering corrective action on behalf of our customers.
> >
> > I find it hard to believe a Registrar is not aware of this type of
> > deceptive use of their DNR
> > Reseller facilities.
> >
> >   -Chris
> >
> > At 10:27 AM 3/9/2004, Larry Erlich wrote:
> > >Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The Domain Registry of America ...
> > > >
> > > > Looks like its that time of year. I came home and found one of their
> > posts
> > > > waiting for me.
> > > >
> > > > This is one example of the kind of fraud we could significantly
> reduce.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone from ENOM want to claim DROA isn't on the wrong side of the
> > ethical
> > > > practices line?
> > > >
> > > > Eric
> > >
> > >There is more to this story. As you can imagine,
> > >because of the similar name,
> > >we get a fair amount of calls from people that
> > >want their $85 or $25 refunded for a transfer that
> > >doesn't go through. It seems that they immediately charge
> > >a credit card upon placing the order and only refund
> > >money if specifically asked and after a waiting period. At
> > >least this is what I am told by their "customers".
> > >
> > >Larry Erlich
> > >
> > >http://www.DomainRegistry.com
> > >
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