RE: [registrars] RE: Acceptable Delivery Method (Fourth Draft of GAINING registrar form for transfers)

["Elana Broitman" <ebroitman@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

even in the case of an existing relationship, I think you'll need written proof if there is any dispute later.
as for fax #, you don't need it in the whois - presumably the gaining registrar can get that directly from the registrant, as long as the registrant or admin contact is the one indicated in the whois

Elana Broitman
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-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Erlich [mailto:erlich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 11:07 AM
To: Bruce Tonkin
Cc: registrars@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [registrars] RE: Acceptable Delivery Method (Fourth Draft
of GAINING registrar form for transfers)


Bruce Tonkin wrote:
> 
> Hello Larry,
> 
> >
> > Is it possible for the gaining registrar approval "letter" to
> > be delivered by a method other than email? If not, does this
> > assume that if the registrant does not have a current email
> > address with the losing registrar, or does not have any email
> > access, they can't transfer registrar?
> >
> 
> We have yet to see the proposed contractual changes etc, but my
> understanding of the policy development outcome was that you could send
> the form to the registrant contact via:
> - email, fax, or post
> (it using the contact information available in the WHOIS).

Thanks. This seems to indicate that the fax # needs
to be in the whois? Note that the fax is often
not in the whois. Melbourneit.com, DomainRegistry.com, Godaddy.com
don't have their fax # in the whois for example. 

> 
> The issue with voice is probably one of proof.  Although I guess you
> could record a conversation where a notice was read out and an
> affirmative answer received.

I think that you need proof of the
affirmative answer either in writing or electronically except
in cases where the registrar has an existing relationship
with a customer (meaning the "registrant" has an existing
relationship - not a reseller). 

>  You may then need some way of verifying
> that the voice in the recording was the registrant.  It is all
> technically possible - although an email is fairly cheap.


> 
> Regards,
> Bruce