Re: [ispcp] Agenda for 17 June WG call
<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div><br></div><div>As we have received positive feedback to date I'd like to propose specific language to consider send back to the PPSAI WG:</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><b>Proposed survey response of the ISPCP Constituency:</b></div><div><br></div><div>The Internet Service Providers and Connectivity Providers operate Internet backbone networks and/or provide access to Internet and related services to End Users. We are key players on the Internet, and have an essential role in its stability and development. The Internet Service Providers and Connectivity Providers Constituency seeks to selectively respond to the GNSO Privacy & Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP Working Group Community Questions for London.</div><div><br></div><div>We focus comments only on Category C, and seek to state unequivocally that we do not believe in a threshold for privacy & proxy services. We do not believe that it is appropriate or in-scope for this group to address this, nor do we believe it necessary or practical for ICANN to require categorization of use for a domain of any contracted party. We therefore file the following official responses on behalf of our constituency:</div><div><br></div><div>Category C Question 1: No.</div><div><div>Category C Question 2: No.</div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div></div></body></html> Attachment:
PPSAI Community Questions for London.docx <html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div></div><br><div><div>On Jun 21, 2014, at 7:19 AM, Tony Holmes <<a href="mailto:tonyarholmes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>tonyarholmes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">+1<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Tony<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:owner-ispcp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>owner-ispcp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a> [<a href="mailto:owner-ispcp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:owner-ispcp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>WUKnoben<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>20 June 2014 19:29<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Christian Dawson<br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Osvaldo Novoa; <a href="mailto:ispcp@xxxxxxxxx";>ispcp@xxxxxxxxx</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [ispcp] RV: Agenda for 17 June WG call<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Thanks Christian,<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I support this. Categorization of content related issues is not in scope.<br><br>Best regards<br><br>Wolf-Ulrich<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245);"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:dawson@xxxxxxxxxxx"; title="dawson@xxxxxxxxxxx" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">Christian Dawson</a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245);"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, June 20, 2014 5:23 PM<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245);"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">To:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@xxxxxxxxxxx"; title="wolf-ulrich.knoben@xxxxxxxxxxx" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">Wolf-Ulrich Knoben</a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245);"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">Cc:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:onovoa@xxxxxxxxxxxx"; title="onovoa@xxxxxxxxxxxx" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">Osvaldo Novoa</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ispcp@xxxxxxxxx"; title="ispcp@xxxxxxxxx" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">ispcp@xxxxxxxxx</a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245);"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [ispcp] RV: Agenda for 17 June WG call<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Wolf-Ulrich and other ISPCP colleagues,<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I'm also on this committee, and can definitely report that there remain some contentious issues surrounding this subject. In particular, if you review the document, issues surrounding the 'Threshold question' are very much unresolved. A minority of Working Group members want to make it so that commercial businesses cannot use privacy & proxy services.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">If a threshold was set that required commercial entities to not use privacy services, I'm not certain how registrars would track which domains are commercial and which ones aren't. I, for one, feel that it's a bad idea to force registrars to categorize registrants based on the expectations of the content that the registrants report will be associated with the domains.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Having registrants categorize their planned usage seems to be a prerequisite for any sort of threshold you would set to qualify for privacy and proxy services. I don't think we would allow ISPs to be forced to ask their customers to categorize their usage type - so I personally think it would be unfair for us to ask registrars to do so. That's only one argument of many I could make against the idea of a threshold for privacy & proxy. <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I request that we at least consider responding to Questions C-1 and C-2 in this document to state that we don't support a threshold for privacy & proxy.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">-Christian<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On Jun 20, 2014, at 4:55 PM, WUKnoben <<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@xxxxxxxxxxx"; style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">wolf-ulrich.knoben@xxxxxxxxxxx</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Hi Osvaldo,<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">is there any contentious item where the WG not yet came to an unanimous recommendation? Otherwise I would say – if full community (SG) representation is ensured in the group membership: keep going!<br><br>Best regards<br><br>Wolf-Ulrich<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245);"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:onovoa@xxxxxxxxxxxx"; title="onovoa@xxxxxxxxxxxx" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">Novoa, Osvaldo</a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245);"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, June 16, 2014 4:54 PM<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245);"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">To:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ispcp@xxxxxxxxx"; title="ispcp@xxxxxxxxx" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">ispcp@xxxxxxxxx</a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245);"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[ispcp] RV: Agenda for 17 June WG call<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Dear All,</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I am enclosing a document with the Privacy & Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP Working Group preliminary conclusions as well as some questions to be posed to the community at the London meeting, based on the deliberations within the group.</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I would appreciate your comments.</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Best regards,</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span lang="ES-UY" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Osvaldo Novoa</span><span lang="ES-UY" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; 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