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Re: [ga] Censorship

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  • Subject: Re: [ga] Censorship
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  • Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 16:21:13 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
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<P>Dr. Dierker and all,</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp; My responses are interspersed below this time...<BR><BR></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Hugh Dierker <HDIERKER2204@xxxxxxxxx><BR>Sent: Aug 5, 2007 2:23 PM <BR>To: GA <GA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Subject: [ga] Censorship <BR><BR>
<DIV>When one party is apprehensive to speak their mind as a result of a conduct of abusive writing by another, it is censorship. When it occurs the whole community loses.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Yes its a form of self censorship.&nbsp; That form is a choice, and nothing more.</DIV>
<DIV>If the whole community suffers due to the lack of courage and subsequent</DIV>
<DIV>self censorship, it is indeed a shame.&nbsp; Lack of courage usually is a shameful</DIV>
<DIV>thing as the community as a whole is effected or diminished by it.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Two things must then happen, the conduct must be stopped, and the forum must be made safe again.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>As far as I know and can determine this forum is only under preasure due to</DIV>
<DIV>errant rule suggestion.&nbsp; So yes this conduct would be best stopped, and </DIV>
<DIV>I have spoken out to suggest that mass censorship by way of some arcain</DIV>
<DIV>rule, that that rule be struck.&nbsp; Such will prevent censorship and encourage</DIV>
<DIV>courage and conviction to flow more readily or even freely.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I am not talking of the mere braggadocios on the one hand and the extremely timid on the other. I am not talking of responses and I am not talking of those folks that are clearly public figures. I am speaking of the clear course of conduct of attacking others with the clear result being restraint of speech. There are also sicknesses that cause this to occur so we must be careful to look at the writing which becomes conduct which results in prior restraint.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Agreed we must all be self aware.&nbsp; Being aware of prior restraint towards freedom</DIV>
<DIV>of expression is improper and abhorrent in its intent and results.&nbsp; Indeed we must</DIV>
<DIV>guard freedom or expression in word, written or spoken lest we deny opportunity</DIV>
<DIV>to all and freedom and liberty to none.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Of course we must always be sympathetic to those who cannot control their writing and we must be careful to only wield sanctions in repetitive cases.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Control is a personal and individual choice in matters of written or spoken word.</DIV>
<DIV>If it is abridged in any way, all of us are diminished and harmed accordingly.&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>In case any are confused, my recent musing is not for any list changes per se. Merely meant as provocative, partially hoping to catch my Holiday brethren in a moment of respite.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Respite is for the wicked and conniving.&nbsp; Diligance in the name of freedom</DIV>
<DIV>and liberty one must ever be on their guard and vigilant.&nbsp; As John Paul Jones</DIV>
<DIV>refrained: "Give me liberty, or give me death".&nbsp; Liberty won that day, and</DIV>
<DIV>has won in many days hence when men and women faced with the dangers</DIV>
<DIV>of losing it rose to vanquish those whom would seek to enslave them</DIV>
<DIV>in rechid prior restraints of censorship.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Eric</DIV>
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