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RE: [ga] List Rules 9GA Chair)
This is an area where I have some experience, including against
people (who were) on this list.
1) I tend to agree with Debbie about the OT proposition.
2) However, I think this is the role of a Sargent of Arms. Not of a
Moderator or of the Chair who may be part of the debate.
3) experience shows that individuals and individuals' corporations
may view things entirely differently. Exemple: I was agressed by a
Member of well known coporation in my area, using his corporation's
mail address. As a result I lost one of my clients. I contacted that
corporation. They pleaded that I accept them to handle the case
internally. They explained that this way they would not have to fire
the person, but they were very clear: by the same token I was losing
any possible compensation. I agreed. They informally discussed the
point with the person, who made a hell about it on public lists. So,
I took a community public blame and lost a second client as a result
(However, the publicity given this way to my true position, made me
gain serious support [but not to recover the financial loss amounting
to the salary of one person, I had to fire]).
4) there is not such a thing as public "threat of frivolous action",
there are "threats" and there are "actions". Threats are delictual.
Even if the claim is sustainable. This is something to be addressed
in every case by the SoA.
Actions are characterised by the fact that they are registered and
one does not discuss them. Warnings are not to be confused with
threats. They belong to actions preliminaries, as such ad-hominem
warnings should always be private. Public warnings should possible if
be published by the SoA at the suggestion of participants afraid by a
mission creep of the list.
jfc
At 14:29 14/07/2007, Debbie Garside wrote:
Hi Joop
>What about a libel-victim?
Should he threaten privately?
I would hope that the Chair or the List Monitor would intervene
should any libellous posts be made and the offender would incur
sanctions. However, any actions for libel should be taken off
list. It is my hope that this forum can operate without behaviour
that is likely to instigate such actions and this is why it is
important to have rules for participation.The point of updating the
rules is to try to steer people away from such behaviour for fear
they would lose their posting rights.
>How about private threats of clearly frivolous legal action?
I have received such in the past.
Can a victim make such private mail public on the list?
Private threats of clearly frivolous action should be treated as
frivolous and I find the best way to deal with these is to ignore
them. However, from past experience, it can be helpful for the
victim of such threats to post an Off Topic [OT] notification to the
list especially if the member feels that other list members may be
able to assist. I certainly think that the Chair and List Monitor
should be made aware of the situation in case it spills over onto
the list. I do not think that private mail should be made public.
Feel free to rewrite this section within the rules including any of
the above or any further ideas you may have.
Best
Debbie
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From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Joop Teernstra
Sent: 14 July 2007 03:27
To: Hugh Dierker
Cc: ga
Subject: Re: [ga] List Rules 9GA Chair)
At 01:05 p.m. 14/07/2007, you wrote:
To date we have received no substantive contribution. We have
recieved negative comments by Jeff Williams but no proposed improvements.
Evolving rules may be found here;
<http://www.geolang.com/draftGAListRules.htm>http://www.geolang.com/draftGAListRules.htm
Hello Mr Chair,
New is the rule about not indulging on-list in legal threats.
What about a libel-victim?
Should he threaten privately?
How about private threats of clearly frivolous legal action?
I have received such in the past.
Can a victim make such private mail public on the list?
I admit, thought, the proposed rules might help crimp the style of
our most prolific poster here.
-joop-
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