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Re: [ga] List Rules 9GA Chair)

  • To: Joop Teernstra <terastra@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [ga] List Rules 9GA Chair)
  • From: jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 02:27:34 -0400 (EDT)
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<P>Joop and all,</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp; As the archives only have been updated to 07/11/07 for</P>
<P>this forum and/or you may/must have missed my comments</P>
<P>to these draft/proposed rules I am copying them below</P>
<P>again</P>
<P>=================copy begins here =================</P>
<P>Dr. Dierker and all,<BR><BR>I see a few problems here that are a matter of subjective<BR>reasoning. As follows:<BR><BR>"The purpose of the GA list is to allow discussion between GA members on<BR><BR>GA matters. It is not itself a decision-making body. The GA members<BR>may, however, formulate such collective opinions into consensus<BR>documents as designated by its members for submission to other bodies."<BR><BR>If the GA is not a decision making body, than what's the point?<BR>Why bother to become a member? Doesn't seem like any GA<BR>I have ever served on. ALL General Assemblies I ever served<BR>on were indeed, "a decision making body". Why have elections<BR>for any GA position or motion?<BR><BR>"(b) The GA may meet once a year, if possible in conjunction with<BR>regularly<BR>scheduled meetings of the Board. To the maximum extent practicable, all<BR>meetings should be available for online attendance as well as physical<BR>attendance.<BR><BR>(c) The costs of GA meetings shall be the responsibility of the GNSO,<BR>which may<BR>levy an equitable, cost-based fee on GA attendees to recoup those<BR>costs. There<BR>shall be no other fees required to participate in the GA."<BR><BR>This basically makes GA members surfs or slaves of a sort and therefore<BR>nearly powerless which is useless. It is also at a minimum an<BR>abrogation<BR>of the MOU, if not an outright violation of same. I am ashamed to<BR>even see it being a consideration of any sort. &gt;:(<BR><BR><BR>And further:<BR>3. POSTING RULES<BR><BR>- not indulging in personal attacks, insults or slander<BR><BR>- not using offensive language<BR><BR>How is "offensive language" defined. What definition of "offensive<BR>language".<BR><BR>What is a definition of an "insult" and how does one prove slander on<BR>a mailing list?<BR><BR>"If the identity behind some email address set is challenged, the list<BR>monitor may ask the challenged party for proof of identity. The list<BR>monitor has discretion in deciding<BR>whether to take action upon a challenge, and to decide what proof of<BR>identity is<BR>acceptable in each particular case. A notarized copy of a civil<BR>identification<BR>(such as a driver's license or passport) is always acceptable."<BR><BR>The above violates civil state statutes in my state of texas. In fact<BR>the Texas AG's office recommends I as a Texas citizen notify their<BR>office of such information is ask for by any non law enforcement agency or<BR>person. By law, I cannot comply with this. Further in 24 states this<BR>rule would be in violation of those states civil statutes which have<BR>changed in only the past year. So I ask, and strongly suggest this<BR>rule be stricken or *modified* in accordance to, or with same. It<BR>is also in violation with the EU's new privacy regs., which I posted<BR>to Dr. Dierker and this list forum as an FYI.<BR><BR><BR><BR>&nbsp;</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Joop Teernstra <TERASTRA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Sent: Jul 13, 2007 10:26 PM <BR>To: Hugh Dierker <HDIERKER2204@xxxxxxxxx><BR>Cc: ga <GA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Subject: Re: [ga] List Rules 9GA Chair) <BR><BR><ZZZHTML>At 01:05 p.m. 14/07/2007, you wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite">To date we have received no substantive contribution. We have recieved negative comments by Jeff Williams but no proposed improvements.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Evolving rules may be found here;<BR><FONT face=arial color=#003399 size=2><A href="http://www.geolang.com/draftGAListRules.htm"; target=_blank>http://www.geolang.com/draftGAListRules.htm</A></FONT><BR>&nbsp;<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Hello Mr Chair,<BR><BR>New is&nbsp; the rule about not indulging on-list in legal threats.<BR><BR>What about a libel-victim? <BR>Should he threaten privately?<BR><BR>How about private threats of clearly frivolous legal action?<BR>I have received such in the past.<BR>Can a victim make such private mail public on the list?<BR><BR>I admit, thought, the proposed rules might help crimp the style of our most prolific poster here. <BR><BR><BR><BR><X-SIGSEP>
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<P>Regards,<BR>Jeffrey A. Williams<BR>Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)<BR>"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; Abraham Lincoln<BR><BR>"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very<BR>often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt<BR><BR>"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability<BR>depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by<BR>P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."<BR>United States v. Carroll Towing&nbsp; (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]<BR>===============================================================<BR>Updated 1/26/04<BR>CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of<BR>Information Network Eng.&nbsp; INEG. INC.<BR>ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>Registered Email addr with the USPS Contact Number: 214-244-4827<BR></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY>
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