Re: [ga] Increased foreign attendance

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Joe and all,

  Good advice.  Thank you.

Joe Baptista wrote:

> Debbie Garside wrote:
>
> >Could you PLEASE only ask questions that can reasonably be answered!  No
> >matter how eloquent you ask the question if there is a sting in the tail you
> >will not get a response.  Are you saying you really cannot see why members
> >of the GA have been passed over and funds given to DiploFoundation?  Please
> >don't waste this forums or ICANNs time.  Try asking a constructive question.
> >
> >
> Sometimes Debbie the best means of getting the sting out of the equation
> is to answer the question.  By refusing to answer you only open up
> yourself and icann to further stings.
>
> I'm not however sure if your with ICANN or not.  If you are you should
> strive to answer the stakeholders question.  Regardless of the sting.
> That shows responsive behavour on behalf of an icann staffer and leaves
> the onus on bad manners with the questioner.  If you are an icann
> staffer and refuse to answer just because someone was rude, then your
> just playing games and everyone looks bad.
>
> Just some friendly advice from your monitor.
>
> God bless
> joe baptista
>
> >Debbie
> >
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>[mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Williams
> >>Sent: 29 June 2007 06:37
> >>To: Prophet Partners Inc.
> >>Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; icann staff; icann board address
> >>Subject: Re: [ga] Increased foreign attendance
> >>
> >>Ted and all,
> >>
> >>  Honestly I cannot see any reason why this Ginger person and
> >>the organization she perports to represent is a bad choice
> >>for Theresa Swinehart to have selected.  However why after
> >>many attempts by members of the GA whom have ask for travel
> >>expenses, ect., in the passed over in favor of organizations
> >>like DiploFoundation.  Maybe Theresa or some other staff
> >>member would be willing to please address that concern?
> >>
> >>Thank you Theresa, or whomever reports directly to you, for
> >>your cooperation in advance regarding this concern.
> >>
> >>Prophet Partners Inc. wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>   Hi Eric,
> >>>
> >>>  "ICANN's unique role is global in nature so it's
> >>>
> >>>
> >>important that we
> >>
> >>
> >>>not only invite the world to participate in our
> >>>
> >>>
> >>organization - we also
> >>
> >>
> >>>need to find ways to get involvement from developing nations and
> >>>regions that might not otherwise be able to participate,"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>said Theresa
> >>
> >>
> >>>Swinehart, ICANN's Vice President, Global and Strategic
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Partnerships.
> >>
> >>
> >>>This nonsense is a complete waste of registrants' money. To
> >>>
> >>>
> >>us, it is
> >>
> >>
> >>>strictly a public relations stunt aimed at improving
> >>>
> >>>
> >>ICANN's image. We
> >>
> >>
> >>>would not be the least bit surprised to find ICANN using
> >>>
> >>>
> >>this sham to
> >>
> >>
> >>>support a ploy to become an international organization. Rather than
> >>>getting people who have an active interest in ICANN to participate
> >>>(i.e. the people on this mailing list), ICANN funds a bunch
> >>>
> >>>
> >>of stooges
> >>
> >>
> >>>from developing countries that they can lead around by the nose.
> >>>
> >>>Although video and audio quality of the YouTube video is
> >>>
> >>>
> >>overall very
> >>
> >>
> >>>poor, it is possible to make out what some people were saying. The
> >>>woman named Ginger who started speaking at 02:21 says she
> >>>
> >>>
> >>is a tutor
> >>
> >>
> >>>for the bilingual Spanish/English group at the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>DiploFoundation. From
> >>
> >>
> >>>their About Us page http://www.diplomacy.edu/ig/About/default.asp ,
> >>>"DiploFoundation is a non-profit organisation which works to assist
> >>>all countries, particularly those with limited human and financial
> >>>resources, to participate meaningfully in international affairs,
> >>>through education and training programs, research, and the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>development
> >>
> >>
> >>>of information and communications technologies for diplomatic
> >>>activities." Ginger said that she is hoping to fill in some
> >>>
> >>>
> >>holes in
> >>
> >>
> >>>her technical issues as she tends more to the education of social
> >>>issues and human rights. These are the type of people that ICANN
> >>>selects for fellowship participants. Perhaps the real
> >>>
> >>>
> >>reason she was
> >>
> >>
> >>>invited was to fill a hole in ICANN's volleyball tournament lineup.
> >>>
> >>>Sincerely,
> >>>Ted
> >>>Prophet Partners Inc.
> >>>http://www.ProphetPartners.com
> >>>http://www.Premium-Domain-Names.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  ----- Original Message -----
> >>>  From: Hugh Dierker
> >>>  To: ga
> >>>  Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 2:11 PM
> >>>  Subject: [ga] Increased foreign attendance
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  This is a perfect example of how numbers get skewed. The amazing
> >>>part is that they are blowing their trumpets over it,
> >>>  <http://icann.org/announcements/announcement-26jun07.htm>
> >>>  They pay these peoples to attend. To bad I no longer live in a
> >>>distant exotic land.
> >>>  I cannot believe that they did not see this article as a bad idea.
> >>>
> >>>  Eric
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>--
> >>Jeffrey A. Williams
> >>Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders
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> >>what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
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> >>"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the
> >>burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L
> >>multiplied by
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Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
   Abraham Lincoln

"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402
E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Registered Email addr with the USPS
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