RE: [ga] Increased foreign attendance

["Debbie Garside" <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Joe

Thank you for your good advice.  But I am not with ICANN.  I am just
presenting my personal opinion.

Best regards

Debbie 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Baptista [mailto:baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: 06 July 2007 02:42
> To: Debbie Garside
> Cc: jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; 'Prophet Partners Inc.'; 
> ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; 'icann staff'; 'icann board address'
> Subject: Re: [ga] Increased foreign attendance
> 
> Debbie Garside wrote:
> 
> >Could you PLEASE only ask questions that can reasonably be 
> answered!  
> >No matter how eloquent you ask the question if there is a 
> sting in the 
> >tail you will not get a response.  Are you saying you really 
> cannot see 
> >why members of the GA have been passed over and funds given to 
> >DiploFoundation?  Please don't waste this forums or ICANNs 
> time.  Try asking a constructive question.
> >  
> >
> Sometimes Debbie the best means of getting the sting out of 
> the equation is to answer the question.  By refusing to 
> answer you only open up yourself and icann to further stings.
> 
> I'm not however sure if your with ICANN or not.  If you are 
> you should strive to answer the stakeholders question.  
> Regardless of the sting.  
> That shows responsive behavour on behalf of an icann staffer 
> and leaves the onus on bad manners with the questioner.  If 
> you are an icann staffer and refuse to answer just because 
> someone was rude, then your just playing games and everyone looks bad.
> 
> Just some friendly advice from your monitor.
> 
> God bless
> joe baptista
> 
> >Debbie
> >
> >  
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>[mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Williams
> >>Sent: 29 June 2007 06:37
> >>To: Prophet Partners Inc.
> >>Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; icann staff; icann board address
> >>Subject: Re: [ga] Increased foreign attendance
> >>
> >>Ted and all,
> >>
> >>  Honestly I cannot see any reason why this Ginger person and the 
> >>organization she perports to represent is a bad choice for Theresa 
> >>Swinehart to have selected.  However why after many attempts by 
> >>members of the GA whom have ask for travel expenses, ect., in the 
> >>passed over in favor of organizations like DiploFoundation.  Maybe 
> >>Theresa or some other staff member would be willing to 
> please address 
> >>that concern?
> >>
> >>Thank you Theresa, or whomever reports directly to you, for your 
> >>cooperation in advance regarding this concern.
> >>
> >>Prophet Partners Inc. wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>   Hi Eric,
> >>>
> >>>  "ICANN's unique role is global in nature so it's
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>important that we
> >>    
> >>
> >>>not only invite the world to participate in our
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>organization - we also
> >>    
> >>
> >>>need to find ways to get involvement from developing nations and 
> >>>regions that might not otherwise be able to participate,"
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>said Theresa
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Swinehart, ICANN's Vice President, Global and Strategic
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>Partnerships.
> >>    
> >>
> >>>This nonsense is a complete waste of registrants' money. To
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>us, it is
> >>    
> >>
> >>>strictly a public relations stunt aimed at improving
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>ICANN's image. We
> >>    
> >>
> >>>would not be the least bit surprised to find ICANN using
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>this sham to
> >>    
> >>
> >>>support a ploy to become an international organization. 
> Rather than 
> >>>getting people who have an active interest in ICANN to participate 
> >>>(i.e. the people on this mailing list), ICANN funds a bunch
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>of stooges
> >>    
> >>
> >>>from developing countries that they can lead around by the nose.
> >>>
> >>>Although video and audio quality of the YouTube video is
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>overall very
> >>    
> >>
> >>>poor, it is possible to make out what some people were saying. The 
> >>>woman named Ginger who started speaking at 02:21 says she
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>is a tutor
> >>    
> >>
> >>>for the bilingual Spanish/English group at the
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>DiploFoundation. From
> >>    
> >>
> >>>their About Us page 
> http://www.diplomacy.edu/ig/About/default.asp , 
> >>>"DiploFoundation is a non-profit organisation which works 
> to assist 
> >>>all countries, particularly those with limited human and financial 
> >>>resources, to participate meaningfully in international affairs, 
> >>>through education and training programs, research, and the
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>development
> >>    
> >>
> >>>of information and communications technologies for diplomatic 
> >>>activities." Ginger said that she is hoping to fill in some
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>holes in
> >>    
> >>
> >>>her technical issues as she tends more to the education of social 
> >>>issues and human rights. These are the type of people that ICANN 
> >>>selects for fellowship participants. Perhaps the real
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>reason she was
> >>    
> >>
> >>>invited was to fill a hole in ICANN's volleyball tournament lineup.
> >>>
> >>>Sincerely,
> >>>Ted
> >>>Prophet Partners Inc.
> >>>http://www.ProphetPartners.com
> >>>http://www.Premium-Domain-Names.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  ----- Original Message -----
> >>>  From: Hugh Dierker
> >>>  To: ga
> >>>  Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 2:11 PM
> >>>  Subject: [ga] Increased foreign attendance
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  This is a perfect example of how numbers get skewed. The amazing 
> >>>part is that they are blowing their trumpets over it,
> >>>  <http://icann.org/announcements/announcement-26jun07.htm>
> >>>  They pay these peoples to attend. To bad I no longer live in a 
> >>>distant exotic land.
> >>>  I cannot believe that they did not see this article as a 
> bad idea.
> >>>
> >>>  Eric
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>Regards,
> >>
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