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OT RE: [ga] Haiti, the Internet and ICANN
- To: <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'Bashar Al-Abdulhadi'" <bashar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: OT RE: [ga] Haiti, the Internet and ICANN
- From: "Debbie Garside" <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 10:09:18 +0100
- Cc: <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
- In-reply-to: <20407857.1183338931900.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
- Sender: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Jeff
My emails were not rants. Just statements of fact.
BTW, I was really sad to see Tony Blair go; he is an honest man with a
conscience and I know that these past few years decisions have weighed
heavily.
Best regards
Debbie
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From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 02 July 2007 02:16
To: Debbie Garside; 'Bashar Al-Abdulhadi'; ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ga] Haiti, the Internet and ICANN
Debbie and all,
I am glad you decided, althought belatedly to rethink your earlier
rantings
in respect to America and my fellow Americans as well as Canadians. Much
appriciated. None the less you said what you said for all to read, we
drew the conclusions by what you stated and how you stated same.
I fully recognize that your outgoing PM, Tony Blair was very umpopular
with a large segment of the Brittish people, yet he was a coragious and
effective freedom loving leader. Your new PM, Mr. Brown has some
very big shoes to fill. I was saddened that he has announced he
is replacing all current cabinet members whom are over 50 years of age,
with new appointees. However I am fairly sure this will be warm
the cocakals of Veni's hart. However, I find myself, that this method of
effecting
his perogative rather troubling which I believe US leaders now, and in the
near future will find concerning as well. Let's hope this is not a prelude
of the
UK and the US's new relationship.
-----Original Message-----
From: Debbie Garside
Sent: Jul 1, 2007 6:14 PM
To: jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, 'Bashar Al-Abdulhadi' , ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ga] Haiti, the Internet and ICANN
OK. I'm going to say this one more time. I gave no opinion on America or
Americans and the conclusions you have drawn are quite wrong . I gave
examples of situations around the world that could be considered human
rights issues, including one from the UK, to support my view that to bring
this sort of thing into the ICANN forum is quite wrong. Where would it
stop! I think Eric's email summed it up rather well. May I, respectfully,
suggest you re-read my emails in this context.
Best regards
Debbie
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From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 01 July 2007 21:04
To: Bashar Al-Abdulhadi; ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ga] Haiti, the Internet and ICANN
Bashar and all,
I have to go with Sotiris on this one. Functioning for a ccTLD=having a
functioning noc or nic and a website. IQ does not have one. Maybe Haiti
will, maybe not. Point being wheather Haiti does or does not is largely
irrelevant. What is relevant is supporting a regime whom has for decades
now supported vast fraudulent enterprises, consideres tourture of it's
countrymen
and women, is a world renouned and UN recognized lawless regime, is simply
not reasonable. Ergo ICANN's decision to "Grant", for lack of a better
term,
Haiti a ccTLD is unconsionable.
As an aside and strictly coinsidental, I recieved a call from my CEO
informing
me that we will not be carring any of Haiti's traffic over any of our
networks.
I support my CEO's position on this. So this means I will need to be
getting
my staff geared up for blocking any an all AFNIC IP addresses which are
routed from or to Haiti, and block and domain traffic as well. I am sure in
due time spamhous and other services of that sort will be forced into doing
similar or same.
And Sotiris, thank you for your earlier support of America and Americans,
I and very sure most americans like myself feel the same about our fine
neibors to the north in Canada. I am saddened and concerned that our
new participant, Debbie has such a negtive and uninformed view
of our american government, Americans, and seemingly our friends
the Canadian people.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bashar Al-Abdulhadi
Sent: Jul 1, 2007 9:52 AM
To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ga] Haiti, the Internet and ICANN
sotiris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote, On 7/1/2007 12:04 PM:
>href="http://www.iana.org/root-whois/iq.htm"
<http://www.iana.org/root-whois/iq.htm>
>http://www.iana.org/root-whois/iq.htm</a><br>
they don't have a website up yet seems to be.<br>
Well, if the NIC doesn't have a web site, I would hardly call the .IQ
ccTLD functional.
Sotiris
Regards,
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
Abraham Lincoln
"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very
often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability
depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
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Regards,
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
Abraham Lincoln
"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very
often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability
depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of
Information Network Eng. INEG. INC.
ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Registered Email addr with the USPS Contact Number: 214-244-4827
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