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Re: [ga] Haiti, the Internet and ICANN

  • To: Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>, Andy Gardner <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [ga] Haiti, the Internet and ICANN
  • From: jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 20:24:21 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
  • Cc: Bashar Al-Abdulhadi <bashar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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<P>Dr. Dierker and all,</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp; I did not offer an opinion.&nbsp; I stated facts that are verifyable.&nbsp; I did not,</P>
<P>and do not intend to verify those facts I stated simply because anyone</P>
<P>with reasonable knowledge, time and a willingness to seek said</P>
<P>verification is free to do so,&nbsp;and perhaps able/willing to do so.&nbsp; The </P>
<P>information verifying the facts I stated carefully are avaliable for public </P>
<P>review at the usual authoritative&nbsp;places.</P>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Hugh Dierker <HDIERKER2204@xxxxxxxxx><BR>Sent: Jul 1, 2007 6:11 PM <BR>To: jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Andy Gardner <ANDY@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Cc: Bashar Al-Abdulhadi <BASHAR@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <BR>Subject: Re: [ga] Haiti, the Internet and ICANN <BR><BR>
<DIV>Let me make it clear to everyone else. We should not be looking for an opinion here. Although, Jeff, thank you so much for yours. We should be looking for specific authority for acting within ICANN.<BR></DIV>
<DIV>Let me further state that I am trying to head off the extremely inflammatory remarks going back and forth under the pretext of something to do with the GA. This makes it abundantly important that allegations and statements be supported by cited authority.</DIV>
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<DIV>Eric</DIV>
<DIV><BR><B><I>jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV>Dr. Dierker and all,</DIV>
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<DIV>&nbsp; Unfortunately as a contracted agent of DOC/NTIA, the answer is</DIV>
<DIV>yes.&nbsp; Fortunately if DOC/NTIA has aquiesed to this decision by ICANN</DIV>
<DIV>the USTR may have something to say about it as Haiti is on their</DIV>
<DIV>watch list.&nbsp; Ergo US companies are not legally allowed under law</DIV>
<DIV>and regulation to trade in any fasion with Haiti ligitimately.&nbsp; Hence my</DIV>
<DIV>earlier announcment in part.</DIV>
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<DIV>&nbsp; From where I sit this amongst a host of other ICANN errant decisions</DIV>
<DIV>demonstrates clearly again why individual representation is needed and</DIV>
<DIV>has been for over 9 years now.&nbsp; It also demonstrates why ICANN does not</DIV>
<DIV>want individual representation as such decisions would likely not have</DIV>
<DIV>been made as the make up of the now musical chairs ICANN bod, would</DIV>
<DIV>have been drastically different as the only election by individuals in 2000</DIV>
<DIV>demonstrated clearly.&nbsp; Again, bad process = bad product, regardless of</DIV>
<DIV>how well it is marketed.</DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Hugh Dierker <HDIERKER2204@xxxxxxxxx><BR>Sent: Jul 1, 2007 4:10 PM <BR>To: Andy Gardner <ANDY@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <BR>Cc: Bashar Al-Abdulhadi <BASHAR@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <BR>Subject: Re: [ga] Haiti, the Internet and ICANN <BR><BR>
<DIV>The legitimate point of this thread is; Does ICANN have the authority to deny a country a ccTLD due to politics and human rights matters? (someone concerned please cite someplace that purports the answer) And secondly, How should they exercises that right if they indeed have it?</DIV>
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<DIV>On a humanitarian basis I do think that Sotiris should ask for some shows of hands and if it be clear, then our body could formalize a letter in condemnation and support for our fellow man stuck in such a hell. This would be appropriate for this assembly.</DIV>
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<DIV>Happy 2nd of July.</DIV>
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<DIV>Eric</DIV>
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<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Andy Gardner &lt;andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;</I></B> wrote: </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><BR>On Jul 1, 2007, at 3:03 PM, jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:<BR><BR>&gt; And Sotiris, thank you for your earlier support of America and <BR>&gt; Americans,<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; I and very sure most americans like myself feel the same about our <BR>&gt; fine<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; neibors to the north in Canada. I am saddened and concerned that our<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; new participant, Debbie has such a negtive and uninformed view<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; of our american government, Americans, and seemingly our friends<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; the Canadian people.<BR>Are you denying that your government is kidnapping people, sending <BR>them to secret prisons and torturing them?<BR><BR><BR>Maybe _YOU'RE_ the uninformed one?<BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<DIV></DIV>Regards,<BR>Jeffrey A. Williams<BR>Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)<BR>"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; Abraham Lincoln<BR><BR>"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very<BR>often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt<BR><BR>"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability<BR>depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by<BR>P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."<BR>United States v. Carroll Towing&nbsp; (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]<BR>===============================================================<BR>Updated 1/26/04<BR>CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of<BR>Information Network Eng.&nbsp; INEG. INC.<BR>ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>Registered Email addr with the USPS Contact Number: 214-244-4827<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<P></P>Regards,<BR>Jeffrey A. Williams<BR>Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)<BR>"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; Abraham Lincoln<BR><BR>"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very<BR>often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt<BR><BR>"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability<BR>depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by<BR>P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."<BR>United States v. Carroll Towing&nbsp; (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]<BR>===============================================================<BR>Updated 1/26/04<BR>CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of<BR>Information Network Eng.&nbsp; INEG. INC.<BR>ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>Registered Email addr with the USPS Contact Number: 214-244-4827<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BODY>
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