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RE: [ga] Haiti, the Internet and ICANN

  • To: Debbie Garside <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'Bashar Al-Abdulhadi'" <bashar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Subject: RE: [ga] Haiti, the Internet and ICANN
  • From: jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 20:15:31 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
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<P>Debbie and all,</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp; I am glad you decided, althought belatedly to rethink your earlier rantings</P>
<P>in respect to America and my fellow Americans as well as Canadians.&nbsp; Much</P>
<P>appriciated.&nbsp; None the less you said what you said for all to read, we</P>
<P>drew the conclusions by what you stated and how you stated same.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp; I fully recognize that your outgoing PM, Tony Blair was very umpopular</P>
<P>with a large segment of the Brittish people, yet he was a coragious and</P>
<P>effective freedom loving leader.&nbsp; Your new PM, Mr. Brown has some</P>
<P>very big shoes to fill.&nbsp; I was saddened that he has announced he</P>
<P>&nbsp;is replacing all current cabinet members whom are over 50 years of age, </P>
<P>with new appointees.&nbsp; However I am fairly sure this will be warm</P>
<P>the cocakals of Veni's hart.&nbsp; However, I find myself, that this method of effecting </P>
<P>his perogative rather troubling which I believe US leaders now, and in the </P>
<P>near future will find concerning as well.&nbsp; Let's hope this is not a prelude of the </P>
<P>UK and the US's new relationship.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Debbie Garside <DEBBIE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Sent: Jul 1, 2007 6:14 PM <BR>To: jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, 'Bashar Al-Abdulhadi' <BASHAR@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <BR>Subject: RE: [ga] Haiti, the Internet and ICANN <BR><BR><ZZZHTML><ZZZHEAD><ZZZMETA content="text/html; charset=us-ascii" http-equiv="Content-Type">
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<DIV><SPAN class=612160523-01072007><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>OK.&nbsp; I'm going to say this one more time.&nbsp; I gave no opinion on America or Americans and the conclusions you have drawn are quite wrong .&nbsp; I gave examples of situations around the world that could be considered human rights issues, including one from the UK, to support my view that to bring this sort of thing into the&nbsp;ICANN forum is quite wrong.&nbsp; Where would it stop! I think Eric's email summed it up rather well.&nbsp; May I, respectfully, suggest you re-read my emails in this context.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=612160523-01072007><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>Best regards</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=612160523-01072007><FONT color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=612160523-01072007><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>Debbie</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] <B>On Behalf Of </B>jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR><B>Sent:</B> 01 July 2007 21:04<BR><B>To:</B> Bashar Al-Abdulhadi; ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [ga] Haiti, the Internet and ICANN<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P>Bashar and all,</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp; I have to go with Sotiris on this one.&nbsp; Functioning for a ccTLD=having a</P>
<P>functioning noc or nic and a website.&nbsp; IQ does not have one.&nbsp; Maybe Haiti </P>
<P>will, maybe not.&nbsp; Point being wheather Haiti does or does not is largely </P>
<P>irrelevant.&nbsp; What is relevant is supporting a regime whom has for decades </P>
<P>now supported vast fraudulent enterprises, consideres tourture of it's countrymen </P>
<P>and women, is a world renouned and UN recognized lawless regime, is simply </P>
<P>not reasonable.&nbsp; Ergo ICANN's decision to "Grant", for lack of a better term, </P>
<P>Haiti a ccTLD is unconsionable.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp; As an aside and strictly coinsidental, I recieved a call from my CEO informing</P>
<P>me that we will not be carring any of Haiti's traffic over any of our networks.</P>
<P>I support my CEO's position on this.&nbsp; So this means I will need to be getting</P>
<P>my staff geared up for blocking any an all AFNIC IP addresses which are</P>
<P>routed from or to Haiti, and block and domain traffic as well.&nbsp; I am sure in</P>
<P>due time spamhous and other services of that sort will be forced into doing</P>
<P>similar or same.&nbsp; </P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>And Sotiris, thank&nbsp; you for your earlier support of America and Americans,</P>
<P>I and very sure most americans like myself feel the same about our fine</P>
<P>neibors to the north in Canada.&nbsp; I am saddened and concerned that our</P>
<P>new participant, Debbie has such a negtive and uninformed view</P>
<P>of our american government, Americans, and seemingly our friends</P>
<P>the Canadian people.</P>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Bashar Al-Abdulhadi <BASHAR@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Sent: Jul 1, 2007 9:52 AM <BR>To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <BR>Subject: Re: [ga] Haiti, the Internet and ICANN <BR><BR><ZZZHTML><ZZZHEAD><ZZZMETA content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-7" http-equiv="Content-Type"></ZZZHEAD><ZZZBODY dir=ltr text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm"><A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:sotiris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>sotiris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> wrote, On 7/1/2007 12:04 PM:<BR></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid62475.216.154.18.52.1183280693.squirrel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx type="cite"><PRE wrap=""> &gt;href=<A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="http://www.iana.org/root-whois/iq.htm";>"http://www.iana.org/root-whois/iq.htm";</A>&gt;<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="http://www.iana.org/root-whois/iq.htm";>http://www.iana.org/root-whois/iq.htm</A>&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">they don't have a website up yet seems to be.&lt;br&gt;

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Well, if the NIC doesn't have a web site, I would hardly call the .IQ
ccTLD functional.

Sotiris


  </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE>Regards,<BR>Jeffrey A. Williams<BR>Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)<BR>"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; Abraham Lincoln<BR><BR>"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very<BR>often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt<BR><BR>"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability<BR>depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by<BR>P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."<BR>United States v. Carroll Towing&nbsp; (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]<BR>===============================================================<BR>Updated 1/26/04<BR>CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of<BR>Information Network Eng.&nbsp; INEG. INC.<BR>ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>Registered Email addr with the USPS Contact Number: 214-244-4827<BR><BR><ZZZ!-- -->Regards,<BR>Jeffrey A. Williams<BR>Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)<BR>"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; Abraham Lincoln<BR><BR>"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very<BR>often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt<BR><BR>"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability<BR>depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by<BR>P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."<BR>United States v. Carroll Towing&nbsp; (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]<BR>===============================================================<BR>Updated 1/26/04<BR>CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of<BR>Information Network Eng.&nbsp; INEG. INC.<BR>ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>Registered Email addr with the USPS Contact Number: 214-244-4827<BR></ZZZHTML></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></ZZZBODY></ZZZHTML></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BODY>



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