RE: [ga] Increased foreign attendance

[jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]

Debbie and all,

  Both of course!  US law is recognized all over the 
world and is enforcable via many legal precepts in 
other jurisdiction, i.e. long arm statutes, extradition,
and international subpoena power.  This does not however
mean that US law always applies.  It certainly does not.
It does mean that as a matter of fact ICANN itself is
subject to US law, as are any and all of its contractual
agreements, ect...

  And I certainly do not berate ICANN for reaching
out Internationally.  Increasing foreign attendance
is a good thing IF applied fairly as Danny earlier
remarked on this thread.  I just believe that reaching
out to my fellow Americans is every bit as important
and has been less forthcoming.  Instead ALL of the 
$96,000.00 was spent on other than my less financially
advantaged Americans.  I personally find that to be
skewed/less than fair.

  Secondly, it seems to me as George had suggested yet 
again that using internet vidio conferencing would be
a far more economic way of increasing attendance at
ICANN meetings and other functions.  My company for instance
has cut our travel and overall meeting costs by 67% using 
internet video vedio conferencing, even for very large meetings 
and functions.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Debbie Garside <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Jun 29, 2007 4:09 AM
>To: jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, 'George Kirikos' <gkirikos@xxxxxxxxx>, froomkin@xxxxxx
>Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: RE: [ga] Increased foreign attendance
>
>Hmmm.. On the one hand I hear ICANN berated for being non-International and
>on the other hand I hear ICANN told that they are American and should abide
>by US law.  Now which do you want? I think you will find a staffing element
>has been covered within the Review.  It specifically makes reference to
>staff being situated Internationally and a need for similar hymn sheets.   
>
>Best regards
>
>Debbie 
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: 29 June 2007 01:10
>> To: George Kirikos; froomkin@xxxxxx
>> Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [ga] Increased foreign attendance
>> 
>> George and all,
>> 
>>   Lets be fair here George, if Vini or any other ICANN 
>> staffer/employee wants to cheerlead, that's not a bad thing, 
>> and it should be expected to a certain degree.
>> 
>>   If on the other hand, any ICANN staffer/employee wants to 
>> falsely denagrate anyone, anyone's idea or means of 
>> expression, I have to take exception to that sort or 
>> nonsense.  I hope others, including ICANN staffers/employees 
>> do as well.  After all for all it's inconvienances, I live in 
>> a country that has the 1st amendment, which is sacrosynct.  
>> However not all ICANN staffers/employees do, but that is 
>> irrelevant as ICANN is a US corporation bound by US bill of 
>> rights, constitution, ect..
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> >From: George Kirikos <gkirikos@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >Sent: Jun 28, 2007 11:54 AM
>> >To: froomkin@xxxxxx
>> >Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >Subject: Re: [ga] Increased foreign attendance
>> >
>> >Hello,
>> >
>> >--- "Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law" 
>> <froomkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >wrote:
>> >> Incidentally, Veni, weren't you an early recipient of 
>> funding to go 
>> >> to ICANN meetings? If so, would you characterize that as 
>> money well 
>> >> or poorly spent?
>> >> 
>> >> Are you now a recipient of funds to go to ICANN meetings? 
>> From what 
>> >> source(s)?
>> >
>> >He's a paid ICANN staffer:
>> >
>> >http://www.icann.org/general/staff.html
>> >http://www.icann.org/biog/markovski.htm
>> >http://blog.icann.org/?p=91
>> >
>> >Don't expect anything but cheerleading from Veni. He's one of the 
>> >people who voted for the VeriSign deal, if you recall, too.
>> >
>> >Sincerely,
>> >
>> >George Kirikos
>> >http://www.kirikos.com/
>> Regards,
>> Jeffrey A. Williams
>> Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders 
>> strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
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>> 
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>> multiplied by
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Regards,
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
   Abraham Lincoln

"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very
often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability
depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of
Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Registered Email addr with the USPS Contact Number: 214-244-4827