Re: [ga] DNS Stressed From Financial Maneuverings

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Tim and all,

Response interspersed below...

Tim Ruiz wrote:

> Other problems with it:
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> 1. Registrars are left with the aftermath of customers not understanding
> what the heck is going on when names are available, then suddenly not
> available, then available again.

Agreed, and why tasting and/or CLS is and always was a bad practice,
and policy.


> There are already enough issues that
> threaten consumer confidence in e-commerce. This practice is quickly
> becoming another. We deal with these kinds of complaints on a daily
> basis. ICANN knows it, the registries know it, we've made sure of that.
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> 2. Registries are left with the need to shore up infrastructure to deal
> with this practice. Just meeting the requirements for historical
> storage of the data as required in their agreements has to be
> significant.r

Very true here.

> Bottom line is they are spending money and resources to
> support an activity that benefits only a handful of entities.

I believe your right here.

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> Tim Ruiz
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> GoDaddy.com
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>  -------- Original Message --------
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> Subject: Re: [ga] DNS Stressed From Financial Maneuverings
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> From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Date: Tue, April 17, 2007 11:56 pm
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> To: Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
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> Cc: General Assembly of the DNSO <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, icann board
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> address <icann-board@xxxxxxxxx>, icann staff <icann-staff@xxxxxxxxx>,
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> Paul Twomey <twomey@xxxxxxxxx>
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> Dr. Dierker and all,
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>  Nothing at all wrong or bad about making money. I am and
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>  always have been a very strong capitalist. What IS wrong
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>  in respect to what this article rightly indicates, is that in any
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>  strong capitalist society, putting "making money" for the sake
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>  of expediency and before stability, is a fools game and therefore
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>  both dangerous use of a mechanism, and is rarely long term,
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>  a money making practice or policy. In the stability of a artificially
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>  imposed stressing of the DNS as a priority over stability and
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>  security for all other DNS users is not a sound practice and/or
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>  policy.
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>  Hugh Dierker wrote:
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>  > Jeff,
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>  > Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I read the article and
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>  > I am not buying it. I saw only a baldfaced assertion of stress but no
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>  > evidence except on behalf of an employee with a mega corp. And it
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>  > would appear to be that employees' job to do what she was complaining
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>  > about doing.
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>  > As for everyone making money on the system; what is wrong with that?
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>  > Eric
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>  > Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>  > All,
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>  > The following illustrates clearly why Domain Name "tasting"
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>  > is a bad idea and bad policy. Yet ICANN has embraced
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>  > it. Money talks louder than stability and security evidently.
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>  > So again unchecked greed trumps good reasoning:
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>  > See:
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>  > http
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> //www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=289466
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>  > "The Domain Name System is showing signs of being out of
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>  > control. Automated software systems are being used to re-register
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>  > batches of expired domain names. In addition, speculators are using a
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>  > loophole in the registration process that lets domains be tested for
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>  > their potential profitability as pay-per-click advertising sites
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>  > during
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>  > a
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>  > free five-day "tasting" period."
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>  > Regards,
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>  > --
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>  > Jeffrey A. Williams
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>  Jeffrey A. Williams
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Regards,

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Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
   Abraham Lincoln

"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402
E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Contact Number: 214-244-4827