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Re: [ga] Re: [NA-Discuss] NARALO Formation Meeting

  • To: Danny Younger <dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [ga] Re: [NA-Discuss] NARALO Formation Meeting
  • From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 23:09:28 -0700
  • Cc: Michael Maranda <mmaranda@xxxxxxxx>, ICANN At Large Staff <staff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, NA Discuss <na-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "David T. Murray" <dmurray@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, mbaker@xxxxxxxxxxxx, Kathy Smith <KSMITH@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, jkneuer@xxxxxxxxxxxx, estark@xxxxxxxxxxxx, icann board address <icann-board@xxxxxxxxx>, icann staff <icann-staff@xxxxxxxxx>
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Danny and all,

  As you already know, ICANN has often violated it's own
bylaws in order to achieve some goal it has.  And ICANN has
also retroactively changed its own bylaws to address a previous
violation of same.  I wonder how long DOC/NTIA is going
to allow this sort of misbehavior to continue?

Danny Younger wrote:

> Michael,
>
> I presume that the report is accurate for the
> following reasons:
>
> The Yonkers meeting is being partially sponsored by a
> candidate ALS.  There is a candidate ALS based in
> Yonkers -- Consumer Reports WebWatch -- see
> http://alac.icann.org/namerica/applications/crw-01mar07.pdf
>
>
> What is particular disturbing is that this applicant
> answered "NO" to the question:  "Is your organization
> constituted so that participation by individual
> Internet users who are citizens or residents of
> countries within the Geographic Region in which your
> organization is based will predominate in your
> organization's operation?"
>
> As a "YES" answer is required by the ICANN Bylaws
> (Article XI Section 2 #4i), this candidate ALS should
> not, under any circumstances, be granted an accredited
> ALS status,
>
> ...and to allow a candidate ALS to partially sponsor a
> meeting when you know that their application should
> indeed be declined is so very far from ethical that
> one has to wonder as to the lengths that ICANN Staff
> will go to try to ram a NARALO down our throats in
> time for the upcoming San Juan session.
>
> I have no doubt that ICANN will be highly embarrassed
> by having to decline an application from this
> significant entity and will direct their Staff to
> lobby ALAC members to "bend the rules" with respect to
> this application.
>
> This is no longer about what the North American
> community wants, this instead is all about getting a
> final RALO established so that ICANN can say to the
> U.S. Department of Commerce that ICANN has in place a
> channel for the voices of the end user community.
> It's all one big political game.  We are just the
> expendable pawns in this effort.
>
> --- Michael Maranda <mmaranda@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > That is disturbing news.  I have supported in
> > principle, a face to face
> > meeting among the NA ALS and ALS applicants, at the
> > proposed meeting in
> > Vancouver at the end of February.  That meeting was
> > never approved and did
> > not get support.  We went ahead with an
> > informational meeting, and with the
> > exception of staff and Canadian participation, no
> > one else from the US
> > stepped forward to participate.
> >
> > I'd like to know which groups are convening this
> > meetingand why there has
> > been no discussion on the NA discussion list.
> >
> > Is this report accurate?
> >
> > On 4/9/07, Danny Younger <dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > >From the ALAC Chair's Monthly Report:
> > >
> > > "NARALO -In conjunction with At Large and Global
> > > Partnerships staff, at the request of some NA
> > ALSes,
> > > requested funding for and got approval for a
> > NARALO
> > > formation meeting in Yonkers, NY in early May.
> > This
> > > meeting is being partially sponsored by a
> > candidate
> > > ALS."
> > https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?april_2007
> > >
> > > It would sure be nice to know which North American
> > > At-Large Structures requested this otherwise
> > > unannounced NARALO formation meeting (and which
> > one is
> > > partially funding this meeting).  I guess that
> > > transparency isn't very high on the ALAC's list.
> > >
> > > The meeting date and location would also be nice
> > to
> > > know...
> > >
> > > As for me, I'd love to know why these particular
> > ALS's
> > > won't even discuss their views on NARALO structure
> > and
> > > formation on the North American At-Large
> > discussion
> > > list (as had been requested prior to the aborted
> > > Vancouver formation meeting).
> > >
> > > The whole thing smacks of a set-up orchestrated by
> > > ICANN Staff in order to promote the fantasy of
> > > At-Large involvement.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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> > > ---
> > > Draft MoU with ICANN:
> > > http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_MOU
> > >
> > > Draft Operating Principles:
> > > http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_OP
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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Regards,

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