Re: [ga] If PIR is violating its own advisory charter, why do they expect to have .org renewed?

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Chris and all,

  Good point, and one that has been discussed before.  I can only
guess that the ICANN Bod seems to be of the opinion that at least
PIR/ISOC registry for .ORG can.  However from our members
perspective this practice seems to be a COI.

kidsearch wrote:

> They are also in the domain name speculation business if I'm correct. Isn't
> BuyDomains.com also owned by Michael Mann? Grassroots.org on the surface
> seems okay, yet buydomains.com has many dot org domain names that could be
> used for a charitable purpose up for sale to the highest bidder or for set
> prices that are more than most charities can afford.
>
> That brings up the whole, should a registry operator also be speculating in
> the domain names under their own tld thing.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Kirikos" <gkirikos@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <org-tld-agreement@xxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: <john.jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx>; <vint@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 12:21 AM
> Subject: [ga] If PIR is violating its own advisory charter, why do they
> expect to have .org renewed?
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > According to the .org Advisory Council Charter:
> >
> > http://www.pir.org/PDFs/pir_ac_charter.pdf
> >
> > "Section 3:... No two members of the Council will be from the same
> > non-commercial organization."
> >
> > Michael Mann and Angela Stuber are both from Grassroots.org:
> >
> > http://www.pir.org/AboutPIR/CouncilMembers.aspx
> >
> http://www.grassroots.org/page.ww?section=Highlights&name=Content+Detail+-+Volunteer
> > http://www.grassroots.org/page.ww?section=About&name=Board+of+Directors
> >
> > Apparently, when this was brought to the attention of PIR, instead of
> > rectifying the issue, they "did not see a problem with it".
> >
> > http://www.domainstate.com/showthread.php3?s=&postid=327276#post327276
> >
> > I have nothing against Grassroots.org, but perhaps ICANN and the public
> > should seriously consider whether PIR, an organization that seemingly
> > has no regard for their own charter, should be operating such an
> > important registry as .org. Indeed, with presumptive renewal, it would
> > be next to impossible to remove a registry operator.
> >
> > This is yet another reason why presumptive renewal should never exist
> > in any registry agreement.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > George Kirikos
> > http://www.kirikos.com/
> >
> >
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