Re: [ga] If PIR is violating its own advisory charter, why do they expect to have .org renewed?

["kidsearch" <kidsearch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

They are also in the domain name speculation business if I'm correct. Isn't
BuyDomains.com also owned by Michael Mann? Grassroots.org on the surface
seems okay, yet buydomains.com has many dot org domain names that could be
used for a charitable purpose up for sale to the highest bidder or for set
prices that are more than most charities can afford.

That brings up the whole, should a registry operator also be speculating in
the domain names under their own tld thing.




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Kirikos" <gkirikos@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <org-tld-agreement@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <john.jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx>; <vint@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 12:21 AM
Subject: [ga] If PIR is violating its own advisory charter, why do they
expect to have .org renewed?


> Hello,
>
> According to the .org Advisory Council Charter:
>
> http://www.pir.org/PDFs/pir_ac_charter.pdf
>
> "Section 3:... No two members of the Council will be from the same
> non-commercial organization."
>
> Michael Mann and Angela Stuber are both from Grassroots.org:
>
> http://www.pir.org/AboutPIR/CouncilMembers.aspx
>
http://www.grassroots.org/page.ww?section=Highlights&name=Content+Detail+-+Volunteer
> http://www.grassroots.org/page.ww?section=About&name=Board+of+Directors
>
> Apparently, when this was brought to the attention of PIR, instead of
> rectifying the issue, they "did not see a problem with it".
>
> http://www.domainstate.com/showthread.php3?s=&postid=327276#post327276
>
> I have nothing against Grassroots.org, but perhaps ICANN and the public
> should seriously consider whether PIR, an organization that seemingly
> has no regard for their own charter, should be operating such an
> important registry as .org. Indeed, with presumptive renewal, it would
> be next to impossible to remove a registry operator.
>
> This is yet another reason why presumptive renewal should never exist
> in any registry agreement.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> George Kirikos
> http://www.kirikos.com/
>
>
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