Re: [ga] Outcome of discussion on string checks

["kidsearch" <kidsearch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

"You can't decide which tlds should be introduced and which ones should not. It has to do with stability of the Internet."


should have read, has nothing to do with the stability of the internet.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "kidsearch" <kidsearch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Bruce Tonkin" <Bruce.Tonkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "icann board address" <icann-board@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [ga] Outcome of discussion on string checks


> Yes, they spent thousands of dollars to develop their current domain name,
> have links everywhere pointing to them, thousands of bookmarkers who visit
> daily, search engine position, and as soon as dot xxx is introduced they are
> gonna say, "Hey, look! dot xxx is here! Forget all those links and the money
> we spent, Lets move!
> 
> And if you forced them to move, who will cover the lawsuits over the amount
> of money they were earning before the move?
> 
> You can't decide which tlds should be introduced and which ones should not.
> It has to do with stability of the Internet.
> 
> Chris McElroy aka NameCritic
> http://icann.thingsthatjustpissmeoff.com
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "kidsearch" <kidsearch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Bruce
> Tonkin" <Bruce.Tonkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "icann board address"
> <icann-board@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 2:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [ga] Outcome of discussion on string checks
> 
> 
> > Chris and all,
> >
> >   Exactly.  Regulating or legislating sexual behavior of adults
> > has never been successful, and isn't likely to be anytime soon.
> >
> >   What is even funnier and so disingenuous, is that PIR/ISOC's
> > .ORG has so many porn registrations and yet they were so
> > strong in promoting .xxx as if .ORG registrants with porn registrations
> > were going to migrate to .xxx.
> >
> > kidsearch wrote:
> >
> > > Exactly right about the xxx TLD. The real funny thing is that people
> think
> > > it will actuall increase or decrease porn on the net in some way. It
> will do
> > > neither.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Cc: <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Bruce Tonkin"
> <Bruce.Tonkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> > > "icann board address" <icann-board@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:54 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [ga] Outcome of discussion on string checks
> > >
> > > > Chuck and all,
> > > >
> > > >   As far as I know, 'public policy' does not trump freedom or
> > > > speach or expression.  Maybe I an wrong here???  Besides
> > > > this, who's 'public policy' and what defined 'public policy'
> > > > was Bruce referring to?  I see nothing wrong in any way
> > > > with .xxx being entered into the root.
> > > >
> > > > Gomes, Chuck wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Danny,
> > > > >
> > > > > I think it is unfair to say that the new gTLD committee wants to
> stifle
> > > > > free speech and I think that there are a variety of opinions on the
> > > > > committee, but I think it is fair to say that most of us on the
> > > > > committee believe that it would not be smart to repeat what happened
> > > > > with .xxx.  Therefore, there was general agreement that the GAC
> should
> > > > > be consulted to see if there are 'public policy' concerns regarding
> new
> > > > > gTLDs that the GAC could provide advice on before the process
> starts.
> > > > > The types of strings Bruce listed are just a list of possible ones
> that
> > > > > relate to public policy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Chuck Gomes
> > > > > VeriSign Information Services
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Danny Younger
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 10:53 AM
> > > > > > To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > Subject: [ga] Outcome of discussion on string checks
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Reading through Bruce Tonkin's synopsis of the
> > > > > > Amsterdam discussions on string checks I noted one of
> > > > > > the "outcomes" that strikes me as problematic:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (d)     The string should not be <controversial,
> > > > > > political, cultural, religious terms> (develop text
> > > > > > related to public policy issues with GAC)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://forum.icann.org/lists/gtld-council/msg00203.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why have we arrived at this conclusion?  Why can't a
> > > > > > particular string be controversial?  There are many
> > > > > > that wanted to have a .xxx domain on the Internet.
> > > > > > Should this possibility continue to be denied just
> > > > > > because some view it as controversial?  Why have
> > > > > > members of the GNSO chosen to stifle free speech?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Perhaps an Amsterdam participant can shed light on
> > > > > > this outcome for us?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > >
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> > --
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
> > "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
> >    Abraham Lincoln
> >
> > "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
> > very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
> >
> > "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
> > liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
> > P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> > United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
> > ===============================================================
> > Updated 1/26/04
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> > IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
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