Re: [ga] Input from Public Relations Firms

[Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>]

Chuck,
   
  Thank you. Perhaps from my perspective you can see how I might of, albeit wrongfully, thought you supported such actions. No I do not think you lie. You have always been open and candid and honest with me and from memory this list. (do not think i suggest for a second that your first loyalty is not to your employer or that professional privilidges are not sacrosanct)
  I would hope your powers to be would apologize for such actions and explain how the accident occurred. This would show they care about real PR - that to their customers.
   
  e

"Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
    Hugh,

I am totally amazed at your conclusion about what I support.  It certainly isn't based on any facts but rather lots of conjecture.  I can only assume that you must be concluding that my response to Danny was a lie.  Therefore, it makes no sense to respond any further because what I say will be twisted.

Chuck


 -----Original Message-----
From:   Hugh Dierker [mailto:hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent:   Wed Nov 30 22:04:35 2005
To:     Richard Henderson; Danny Younger
Cc:     ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject:        Re: [ga] Input from Public Relations Firms

Richard,
  
  Apologies for my misconception.
  
  In American Jurisprudence we have to levels of ethics; first for the lawyers, which boils down to, don't get caught violating one of the rules the establishment has dictated in order to protect their own self interests. But the second is for the Bench or Judges. Avoid the appearance of impropriety.

  Note the "PR" firms have both violated their own rules of ethics by lying blatantly and the have violated the Cardinal rule; don't get caught cheating.
  
  In this case while I cannot apologize for them i can certainly state that I as a Norte Americano am embarrassed by them. Also on a personal note, I am bummed out about Chuck supporting this type of behavior, he seems like a nice enough guy.
  
  e
 
Richard Henderson <richardhenderson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
          Well spoken Dr Dierker!
  
  It is exactly the logic and good argument that should be the basis for right-thinking people to draw conclusions from.
  
  Just one thing: I am not anti-American.
  
  Some of the best friends in my life are American. I have found many Americans to be warm and hospitable and generous. To be critical of American corporate culture (or at least to be sceptical) is not to be anti-American but pro-American.
  
  Because I believe in the best of the US, and not in the Enrons and Worldcoms.
  
  With respect and best wishes,
  
  Richard H
    ----- Original Message -----
  From: Hugh Dierker
  To: Richard Henderson ; Danny Younger
  Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 11:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [ga] Input from Public Relations Firms
 

  This is truly interesting. At the very least any professional public relations group would hire outside individuals to claim authorship of the list posts. It is axiomatic to public relations not to be seen. I am embarrassed for this knuckleheads and I hope Verisign sues them for this ridiculous amateurism.
  (but I do not see how this fits into Richards' anti-Americanism. Richard you are losing credibility by trying to squeeze every issue into your anti USA template)
  I think the most important factor here is the reminder that we should not judge a position merely by the amount entries but rather by the viability and logic of the argument.
  
  e

Richard Henderson <richardhenderson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
  Yes, that spate of "We adore the settlement" messages was as hilarious as it
was inept! What's insulting is trying to understand how *anyone* can think
that the rest of the world is applauding the grant of a monopoly to a US
corporation (with a dismal reputation for customer service) and these daft
messages were so US-centric and transparently "rigged" that it makes the
rest of us in the world think: "Oh thank you, corporate America, for
agreeing to charge us more and more for our domains each year" and "Thank
you honest good guys for sending all these messages, yes, we love Verisign
too, in fact we're in love with Verisign, in fact we want to marry Verisign,
in fact we want to FUCK Verisign..."

Yrs, from outside the US (that foreign place called Planet Earth),

Richard Henderson

----- Original Message -----
From: "Danny Younger"
To:
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 6:54 PM
Subject: [ga] Input from Public Relations Firms


> Hello Chuck,
>
> ... as long as you're in listening mode... Please
> convey my thanks to VeriSign for providing the recent
> spate of comical "We love the settlement" remarks sent
> to the settlement-comments forum. If you don't mind
> receiving a friendly tip... when your company hires
> public relations firms to suddenly flood the list with
> bogus supportive comments, please try to enlist
> slightly more competent help :)
>
> Best wishes,
> Danny
>
>
>
> Supporting the ICAAN Verizon Settlement
> To: settlement-comments@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Supporting the ICAAN Verizon Settlement
> From: Dick Shiner
> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:09:34 -0500
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Hello,
>
> Enough nonsense, the suit should be settled, and
> Verizon and ICAAN should get back to work. Verizon
> provides great customer service, flexible pricing
> plans, and easy to understand bills.
>
> I don't know much about ICAAN, but these people who
> are putting down Verizon probably just want customers
> to switch their service over to ICAAN.
>
> Verizon is for competition and a better internet.
>
> We should support the settlement.
>
> R. Shiner
>
> (ps to Jim, Paypal is fine)
>
> http://forum.icann.org/lists/settlement-comments/msg00326.html
>
>
>
>
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