Re: [ga] The Disappearance of ALAC's Forum Archives

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Richard and all former DNSO GA members or other interested
stakeholders/users,

  Keeping adequate Email archives has always been a troubling task for
ICANN's staff to achieve going back to 1999 and the very start of ICANN.

ICANN's performance in this task has not only not improved as you again
point out, it has grown worse.  However keeping archives is the law of
the
land.  So one has to wonder why DOC/NTIA has given ICANN a pass
on such poor archive management and thwarting the law?

Richard Henderson wrote:

>    I thought I would look back at the contributions anyone had taken
> the time and trouble to send to one of the ALAC forums in 2004, and to
> analyse how much of a "graveyard" the ALAC forums had become.
>
> First I went to:
> http://forum.icann.org/alac-forum/
>
> 15 posts between Oct 16 and Feb 16 (if you exclude spam). That is
> barely one post a week (and over half of those were from Danny Younger
> or myself).
>
> So then I clicked on the link on that page which says: "Messages
> posted prior to 1 Oct 2004". This took me here:
> http://forum.icann.org/old-alac-forum/
>
> Now I thought I could read through all the older messages which I and
> others had sent prior to Oct last year.
>
> I clicked on:
> Comments regarding Domain Name Registration Issues. But oh-oh... "Page
> cannot be found"
>
> I clicked on:
> Comments regarding WHOIS. Oh-oh again... "Page cannot be found"
>
> I clicked on:
> Comments regarding SPAM. Well oh-oh... "Page cannot be found"
>
> I clicked on:
> Comments regarding IDNs... oops, no I didn't... no comments were ever
> submitted so there is no link
>
> I clicked on:
> Comments regarding New TLDs. And oh-oh... "Page cannot be found"
>
> I clicked on:
> Comments regarding WIPO. Same again - oh-oh... "Page cannot be found"
>
> I clicked on:
> Comments regarding WSIS. Guess! Oh-oh... "Page cannot be found"
>
> I clicked on:
> Comments regarding Registry Service Changes... Yawn, oh-oh... "Page
> cannot be found"
>
> I clicked on:
> Comments regarding Verisign. Dur - oh-oh... "Page cannot be found"
>
> I clicked on:
> Miscellaneous Comments. Any chance here? Nope, oh-oh... "Page cannot
> be found"
>
> I clicked on:
> Comments regarding At Large Organizing. Thousands of posts here
> surely, but no, oh-oh... "Page cannot be found"
>
> I clicked on:
> Two other links but all roads led to: "Page cannot be found"
>
> In short, it seems as if all the posts submitted to the ALAC forum
> prior to October 2004 have *VANISHED* in the twinkling of an eye.
> Please could we have them back? I think it is widely accepted that
> messages sent to the ICANN's various mailing lists and fora should be
> archived and available for review in an open and transparent fashion.
>
> I admit that the ALAC forum is a graveyard. But we should still be
> able to go and lay flowers, and remember, and say a little prayer for
> the At Large. Does this mean that one day any other ICANN archive can
> just be removed and disappear without trace?
>
> Yrs,
>
> Richard Henderson
>

Regards,

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