Re: [ga] Deletion lists only help

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Sotiris and all former DNSO GA members or other interested
stakeholders/users,

  I am not sure that the postal analogy is applicable here, but none the
less
Sotiris brings out a very good point that I believe is being missed in
this particular discussion area.  That being if the registrar has a good

business plan and a reasonable contractual relationship with their
credit card processing organization/service, concerns of unclaimed
or abandon domain name registrations or those that are not renewed
should not incur a additional cost to the registrar.  Hence making such
and argument by the registrar is not viable.


Sotiris Sotiropoulos wrote:

>   Hugh Dierker wrote:
>
> > Good point. Jobbers, warehouseman and the like take a dim view when
> > the storage or shipment which they do, even though they do not own
> but
> > store or ship, is not paid for by the owner or recipient.
>
> Actually, I think the postal service would make a better analogy for
> our
> present purposes than your jobbers/warehousemen.  Here in Canada, as I
>
> imagine happens in most countries with a postal service, if a package
> is
> unclaimed or a recipient cannot be found for a package sent by post
> (i.e. postage has been paid), it is returned to sender.  The post
> office
> does not levy
> a fee for the process of returning to sender, as postage has already
> been paid but intended delivery was not made, thus necessitating a
> return to source.  In the domain name business, the source is the
> registry.  I mean, what would happen if every package/letter that went
>
> undelivered by the postal service were to instead be appropriated by
> the
> postal service?
>
> Here is a quote from the CANADA POST CORPORATION ACT RE: Undeliverable
>
> and Redirected Mail Regulations
> INTERNATIONAL UNDELIVERABLE MAIL
>
> "15. (1)
> <http://
> aws.justice.gc.ca/fr/C-10/C.R.C.-ch.1298/163287.html#article-15>
> Undeliverable mail posted elsewhere than in Canada shall be dealt with
>
> as follows:
>
> (a) where the mail was posted in Australia, Great Britain (including
> Northern Ireland), the Republic of Ireland, Mexico or the United
> States
> with postage thereon paid at the current rate of postage for letters
> in
> that country and where the mail bears a return address, with or
> without
> a request for return, the mail shall be returned directly to the
> sender;"
>
> Why should the registrar, who has aleady levied their fee upon initial
>
> registration/transfer/whatever have *any* claim against any given
> registration which it helps to effect?
>
> Sotiris Sotiropoulos
>
> > Uniform Commercial Code has many laws covering these matters.
> >
> > The next sticky wicket is the charge back or the fraudulent
> purchase.
> > Eric
> >
> > Sotiris Sotiropoulos <sotiris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >     Party B is an arbitrary figure as 'middleman' and 'go-between'
> and
> >     nothing more.  If not for Party A there would be nothing for
> party
> >     B to claim a lien against.
> >
> >     Sotiris Sotiropoulos
> >
> >     Hugh Dierker wrote:
> >
> >>     If party A, does not pay party B for a service/good provided.
> >>     When does the service/good revert to the open market? Or does
> >>     party B have a lien on the service/good by which they may
> dispose
> >>     of the service/good anyway they chose? Deletions caused by
> breach
> >>     of the registering party cause a dilema not so easily remedied
> as
> >>     lists.
> >>     Eric
> >>
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