Re: [ga] The Checkfacts dotORG and dotCOM issue

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Eric and all former DNSO GA members or other interested
stakeholders/users

  Lawyers are like politicians, they all lie, they just do so with
remarkable
dexterity.  Engineers are not like either lawyers or politicians, they
prefer
to deal with tangible facts.  The issue is one of whether or not any
domain or it's associated web site or web sites can or cannot block
any link to it from another web site.  Andy's argument as I understand
it
anyway is that doing such blocking, which is factually incorrect and
which
I pointed out a being so.

  I am not sure what your argument is or is trying to be, and what if
any
John Berryhill has to do with it on any factual level.  However John's
decision as you put it is true for now but with changes to the copywrite

laws and the INDUCE act, temporarily tabled, it is likely that
hyperlinks
and/or URL's will be copyritten in the near term...  Hence making the
need for blocking linking via a number of methods a necessity...

Hugh Dierker wrote:

>    I ran into the subject through the mainstream media reporting on a
> mistatement regarding the GTLDS made by Cheney in a debate with some
> lawyer guy running for vice president. (really you cannot run for vice
> president)
> I found the issue extremely interesting and telling regarding the
> general public and search engines and traffic flow and big dough. I
> was a little saddened by dotNET being leftout.
> And then we had the hillarious debate over something no one cares
> about between Andy and Jeff, regardless of each of the avocations they
> carried on like two engineers arguing an issue.
> Yet it appears to be our very own Dr. Berryhill, lawyer for the Cayman
> island group that made a decision sure to effect thousands of voters -
> one way or the other. There is no civil or criminal liability for
> mentioning a domain name or directing traffic to one. Of course if it
> is done with malice and in a calculated way to do harm to another a
> good lawyer would find a hook for insurance to cover the matter.
> But what was in essence probably a slip of the tongue on a suffix to a
> site caused thousands and thousands of people to act in a certain way
> as opposed to another way.
> Or was it ignorance and Cheney really does not know the gravamen of
> the difference between the two.
> Or was it intelligent and calculated to cause a stir regarding
> exposing just how much dough Soros pours into the democrats.
> Interesting that it is ICANN that basically decided how, who, when and
> what runs dotORG and dotCOM.
> I guess the good point was that gtlds still really do make a
> difference in marketing and perceptions, with dotCOM still being first
> and foremost on all the engines and all of our minds.
> Eric

Regards,

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