RE: [ga] xxx and zoning
"Hugh" Dierker writes: "Remember, there is no definition of pornography,
but, "I know it when I see it". Spam looks like porn to me."
Au contraire Mr. Dierker, there is a very clear definition of pornography.
Pornography:
1. Pictures, writing, or other material that is sexually explicit.
2. The presentation or production of this material.
Not only is there a definition, but it's pretty much universally considered
a "dirty" business fraught with all sorts of distasteful and disagreeable
situations, persons and practices.
Though I must admit, I'm not at all surprised by your comment, especially
that it was you who made it.
"Pornography is the attempt to insult sex, to do dirt on it."
-D. H. Lawrence (1885-1930), British author. Pornography and
Obscenity (1930; repr. in Phoenix: The Posthumous Papers of D. H. Lawrence,
pt. 3, ed. by E. McDonald, 1936).
"Pornography is literature designed to be read with one hand."
-Angela Lambert (b. 1940), British journalist. Independent on Sunday
(London, 18 Feb. 1990).
Sotiris Sotiropoulos
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From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Hugh Dierker
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 11:39 AM
To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ga] xxx and zoning
Zoning. History is full of the notion of putting the "dirty" stuff in a
special zone.
The tenements outside the colliseum, Pegale district, Canal Street and it
does not end with porn. Lepper colonies, prisons, Mexico City's dump, China
towns from Cholon to SF and the Mauritians in Paris. Perhaps ghettos, and
cult retreats and do not forget nudist colonies, and Vegas. If most of the
places in Asia did not have special districts you could not find your way to
a church, - oh yes, we have church zoning in most of the US. And I suppose
it works.
In my little adopted home town we basically zoned AEEs (adult entertainment
establishments) into outlying boulevards. Urban sprawl happened and the
land became valuable to developers and the shops got eminant domained and
the land rezoned for churches and schools and "residential". Oh not all was
lost, you can still find streets where crack and hookers are there for a
slow moving car. The trouble there is that now it is not acknowledged by the
establishment and crime permeates the barrios like a wildfire.
Make no mistake, knocking pornsites out of dotcom is akin to taking a womens
lingerie shop on mainstreet. You are going to be taking ones property and
you had better make damn sure you have a good due process involved. And
then you also better decide if seeing Janet's teats is worse than excluding
books from your public library simply because JFK was in fact doing Marilyn.
It is funny but the xxx is also an integral part of globalization. The
difference between creating a melting pot of all or segregating your culture
and spices in order to preserve the unique flavors and tastes. Try Mole', it
is good, as is a good chicken curry Cous Cous but I like chocolate and
Couscous all by themselves sometimes. Paella may even be a better example.
One needs a carrot and a stick in helping porn find a safe niche. Someone
once said "if you build it they will come". As gambling seems to have found
safe haven venues, perhaps there is a country that has absolutely no
prohibition or restrictions on pornography and they could host such a site.
Oops that could never happen because the big bad countries that talk so bad
about porn make the most revenue off of it. What was Castro thinking when
he closed off the golden spicket known as the Havana Night Life?
Remember, there is no definition of pornography, but, "I know it when I see
it". Spam looks like porn to me.
Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@xxxxxx> wrote:
On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 09:12:22PM -0800,
Jeff Williams wrote
a message of 32 lines which said:
> Seems to me in the .xxx specific case, depending on how it is
> handled, it would be a good idea to have such a sTLD.
Read RFC 3675 ".sex Considered Dangerous" first.
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