Re: [ga] request for details about ALAC members

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Jefsey and all former DNSO GA members or other stakeholders/users,

J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin wrote:

> Dear Don,
> No reason to call Roberto a crook. Or ICANN either.
>
> They are lost in the middle of somethng they do not control  and they were
> told by the US law to control it. Not in so plain words - what would have
> made the thing easier - but by common understanding and practice.

I believe you have this thought or idea completely reversed.  DOC/NTIA
have very little control over ICANN as they seemingly are only
interested in passing off as soon as possible management of the
central underpinnings of the Internet, protocols, Ip address allocation
and use, and DNS.

>
>
> Their only way out rigth now (like GWB) "is  to be a crook". To make
> believe theycann. To go to Iraq. Their next way out will be to call for
> coperation, like GWB calling on UN's help in Iraq.

  Again such irresponsible comparisons are both out of the scope
of this forum, and are categorically based of a false premise.

>
>
> That day, our best interest will be that some of them are still oround (it
> will be shock for them and they will fly away - the first one was Joe Sims
> - the smartest among thm).

  Joe Simms was the primary author of the Registry agreements.
Those agreements/contracts are so bad as the Site Finder incident
has shown, it is difficult if not totally without merit to consider
Joe Simms as the smartest among "them"...  Such judgments
as this one of yours Jefsey are beyond any good reason.

>
> jfc
>
> At 03:28 11/10/03, Don Brown wrote:
> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> >Why do you persist in spending your time about this charade, when you
> >and the rest of us, fully recognize it as a shame?  That was a question
> >and not a criticism . . . .
> >
> >You can't talk convincingly to a crook about the merits of being law
> >abiding - they shake their head, but it doesn't compute.  So, when you
> >recognize it for what it really is, I think it is time to shut up and
> >move on.  Don't you agree?
> >
> >We can't make a difference by debating the crooks.  They have
> >different rules.  What we need to do is to enlist the legislature and
> >it takes every one of us to do that - we all need to make ICANN a
> >political football which the legislature must handle for political
> >reasons.
> >
> >Otherwise, we are engaged in mental mastur* (sorry ladies), but that
> >is the reality of it.  There needs to be a focused and pointed action
> >toward the legislature, in order to get it changed for the better.
> >That's the reality of it, as I now see it.  I'm not very fond of wheel
> >spinning . . .
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >
> >Friday, October 10, 2003, 6:02:12 PM, J-F C. (Jefsey)  Morfin
> ><jefsey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >JFCJM> At 19:19 10/10/03, Roberto Gaetano wrote:
> > >>We can probably discuss forever about the representativity of the current
> > >>ALAC members, on the fact that they have not been elected by popular vote
> > >>of the millions of users of the Internet, but this does not make us pawns
> > >>in the hands of phantom interests.
> >
> >JFCJM> Roberto,
> >JFCJM> why not simply to word ALAC as at large authoritative consultants (and
> >JFCJM> voluntary). There is not need for you to be elected to tell what
> >you think
> >JFCJM> we say, if you only report and not defend your own opinons. But I
> >think
> >JFCJM> advisable that understandi most of what you talk about, including
> >technics,
> >JFCJM> in advizing an organization which pretends to be operation management
> >JFCJM> oriented. IMHO the lawyer of a farmer is better off understanding
> >law than
> >JFCJM> farming.
> >JFCJM> jfc
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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