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Re: [ga] ALAC statement on resolution of non-existing domain name s

  • To: "Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>, "Nancy J. Victory" <nvictory@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Robin Layton <RLayton@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Don Evans <DEvans@xxxxxxx>, Clyde Ensslin <censslin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [ga] ALAC statement on resolution of non-existing domain name s
  • From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 18:46:34 -0700
  • Cc: "'Vittorio Bertola'" <vb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'ga@xxxxxxxx'" <ga@xxxxxxxx>, icann board address <icann-board@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Organization: INEGroup Spokesman
  • References: <A9DECB0B8A01A54DBECC03B25D29513C562A1F@stntexch03.va.neustar.com>
  • Sender: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Jeff N, and all former DNSO GA members or other interested parties,

  Jeff N., several of the technical concerns have already been raised
on this very forum recently by Karl and others.  So it would seem
that you missed them.  In addition this issue has been raised along
with a long dialog of the technical concerns some time ago on this
AND other forums.  I guess you forgot or missed those discussions
and debates as well?  I would seem to me anyway, that  you should
pay closer attention to dialog on this forum as well as do your own
review before criticizing others on their review and/or positions.

Thank you in advance for your concern, consideration and cooperation,
such as it is...

Neuman, Jeff wrote:

> Just one question....the ALAC has reached the conclusion that "this practice
> raises grave technical concerns" but cannot define those technical concerns.
> How can you come to a conclusion on a topic which you admit you do not have
> the knowledge to understand?
> I would advise a more objective issues statement, that starts with the
> issues rather than starting with the conclusion that you are seeking
> evidence to prove.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vittorio Bertola [mailto:vb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 2:01 PM
> To: ga@xxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ga] ALAC statement on resolution of non-existing domain names
> The At-Large Advisory Committee would like to bring to ICANN's
> attention concerns about Verisign's surprising roll-out of the
> "SiteFinder" service for .com and .net.
> SiteFinder works by re-directing queries for non-existing domain
> names to the IP address of a search service that is being run by
> Verisign.
> This practice raises grave technical concerns, as it de facto
> removes error diagnostics from the DNS protocol, and replaces them
> by an error handling method that is tailored for HTTP, which is just
> one of the many Internet protocols that make use of the DNS. We will
> leave it for others to explain the details of these concerns, but
> note that returning resource records in a way which is countrary to
> the very design of the DNS certainly does not promote the stability
> of the Internet.
> These concerns are not mitigated by Verisign's efforts to work
> around the consequences of breaking the Internet's design on a
> service-by-service basis: These workarounds make specific
> assumptions on the conclusions that Internet software would be
> drawing from nonexisting domain names; these assumptions are not
> always appropriate.
> When working as intended, the service centralizes error handling
> decisions at the registry that are rightly made in application
> software run on users' computers.  Users are deprived of the
> opportunity to chose those error handling strategies best suited for
> their needs, by chosing appropriate products available on a
> competitive marketplace. Software makers are deprived of the
> opportunity to compete by developing innovative tools that best
> match the user's needs.
> We urge ICANN to take whatever steps are necessary to stop this
> "service."
> --
> vb.                  [Vittorio Bertola - vb [at] bertola.eu.org]<---
> -------------------> http://bertola.eu.org/ <-----------------------


Jeffrey A. Williams
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