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Re: [ga] Vint Cerf opposed to users being redirected to search engines


Jefsey,
It doesnt matter if you quote Teilhard de Chardin or Manu le Malin.
And it doesnt matter if millions want it or just 52. Its a matter of choice. I simply dont think ICANN (or its representatives) have any right to choose how my browsing, mail, telnet or other experience works.
They have some sort of claim to have some sort of nexus with the legacy DNS servers and their management... but there is simply no way, legallly or otherwise they will ever tell me how my desktop is run...beyond adherence to a few protocols. If they get too intrusive on that...I and everyone else, including and especially Microsoft, will route around them....End of story.



J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin wrote:

At 16:19 06/09/03, Dan Steinberg wrote:

I agree with Karl that many (if not most) users of the web do not care about the religious purity of the experience and more about finding what they want.


Dan,
what millions of brains aournd the world do with, understand of, engineers from the software is what one names "brainware" - what Telihard de Chardin has annouced as the "noosphere".


More to the point, it seems to me that none of us (not even the mighty ICANN) has the right nor the power to control what happens in this instance. At the desktop???? I think not. In fact...I'm sure not.


The brainware can be influenced, suggested ideas, mostly at the begining of a new conept taught correct or wrong beliefs by press, education, government attitudes etc. one says "influed", the same as "programmed" for software and "designed" for hardware.

One exemple of brainware influing is the root system: making the world believe one needs a real time access to 13 (now a little more) machines under ICANN control, to get updated a file mostly known as being refused to be updated by ICANN, everyone can update via FTP, and which represents in size 1% or less than the virus tables everyone maintains on his machine.

Today after ICANN the brainware master is Microsoft. And this is the reason of its importance. If BG says or develop something most of the people will accept and trust it is the way it must be done in a world lead by Windows. There are some ICANN sects, there are IETF chapels but there is a leading M$ church.

jfc


Karl Auerbach wrote:

On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, L. Gallegos wrote:



The link below requires a subscription to wsjonline. If anyone knows of any other articles reporting this opinion by Mr. Cerf, I'd like to see it.


In case anywone has not noticed, Microsoft's Internet Exploder^H^H^Hrer comes from the factory with "search" enabled.


There is a long road between what a user enters into a browser's "address bar" and what is seen in the browser windows. Along that road the user's entry may evolve considerably.

Microsoft has given itself priority places along that roadway, but we have seen others, new.net being but one, who also have made use of the place between the address bar and the window.

I seriously doubt that many web users care much about the religious purity
of domain names; I suggest that users care, instead, much more about
finding what they want.


                --karl--





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