Re: Web address of [ga] list please

["J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin" <jefsey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Full argeement with Roberto.

However I do not think ALAC will ever represent the users soon. As I told 
Paul in Paris, let proceed step by step. There is a need for every 
categories of network users to be represented their own proper way in the 
Governance (what means in the whole I-Sector). Businesses, NGOs, user 
networks, @large, consumer organizations. IMHO each will be appropriately 
represented the day they contribute, instead of mainly spending their time 
on the way they will vote. The same for ICANN users (IPC, Registries and 
Registrars) and partners (ccTLDs, GAC, ITU). And this may call for time.

ALso, I look at what Paul does.

- the staff organization he published. He correctly labels the ccTLDs as 
partners, finding back our obvious 1984 consensus Jon Postel correctly 
documented in his RFC 920 (creating the legacy name space, within the 
global name space, as it has never changed since) ICP-3 makes the foundment 
of ICANN's role and legtimacy.

- also, you may have noticed that his texts are shorter and in a larger 
case. This alone says a lot :-)

jfc



At 16:02 22/07/03, Roberto Gaetano wrote:

> **** This is *not* an autoresponse **** ;>)
>
> Richard Henderson wrote:
>
> > Thanks for your substantive mail, Karl, which I have snipped! Your new
> > confidence in Paul Twomey is heartening but as yet to be demonstrated.
>
> For the record, I share Karl's optimism.
> Long time ago, two GAC reps stood up in an ICANN meeting, claiming that 
> ICANN had to be more responsive to the user community. One of the two is 
> Paul Twomey.
> Of course, people can change in time, and/or when the wear a different 
> had, but I am under the impression that ICANN's problem is more the way 
> staff intend their role than the way the Board and/or CEO behaves. One can 
> always argue whether it is the chicken or the egg that comes first, but 
> just to watch in past ICANN meetings how staff have behaved as if they 
> were the ones making the decisions, and BoD just listening (and after all 
> voting according to the indication of the staff) gives a clear picture of 
> where the problem was (and to a certain extent still is).
> Example? Yes, think at Marina del Rey, famous historical meeting in which 
> new TLDs were finally about to be delegated. Was I the only one having the 
> impression that the decision was made by Luis Touton, who was intervening 
> saying which objections were appropriate or not, what should have been 
> taken into account by the Board to decide and what not, and so on?
> My guess is that the first task Paul has in front of him is to establish 
> once and for good who rules the house. Who is giving and who is taking 
> orders, who is giving advice and who is making decisions.
> I was lucky enough to meet him personally in some occasions, the first one 
> in Cairo, and I have the firm impression that when it is time to have fun 
> he joins the crowd and has fun, but when it is time to clean the house he 
> is rolling up his sleeves and manages things to get done.
> In the right way.
> So can we for the time being at least suspend the judgement on the new 
> management of ICANN, and collaborate giving at least the benefice of the 
> doubt. Incidentally, the reason I accepted to join the ALAC recently is 
> because I do believe that it will be possible now to do the step forward I 
> did not manage to do in the past in the direction of improving the 
> representation of the individuals in this process.
> Best regards
> Roberto
>
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