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Re: [ga] List of Domain Names
- To: Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>, karl@xxxxxxxxxxxx, debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx, icann-board@xxxxxxxxx, ray@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, rod_beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx
- Subject: Re: [ga] List of Domain Names
- From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:53:58 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
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<P>Eric and all,</P>
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<P> Nice bit of sarcasim in your response. >:) Naturally
the RIAA and MPAA and their other nation</P>
<P>equivelents want extrodinary protections. Don't we all?
But the question is as Karl rightly pointed </P>
<P>out is catering to SIG's such as these big IP interests, necessary,
advantagious, reasonable or</P>
<P>broadly benificial enough to justify such extraordinary protections? I
believe the consensus is</P>
<P>NO.<BR><BR><BR></P>
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<HDIERKER2204@xxxxxxxxx><BR>Sent: Jun 16, 2010 8:11 AM <BR>To:
karl@xxxxxxxxxxxx, debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <BR>Cc: Accountability
Headquarters <GA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Subject: Re: [ga] List of Domain Names
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<DIV>This is preposterous. Karl is suggesting that IP interests follow
the damn law. Ridiculous!! All due process and habeus corpus
must be suspended during this time of Registrants Insurgents. Anyone want
to tie this in with why the Registrants do not have a constituency???</DIV>
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<DIV>(I am not saying a conspiratorial concerted 10 year effort to
subversively[not submissively] thwart any efforts)<BR></DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Karl Auerbach
<karl@xxxxxxxxxxxx><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B>
Accountability Headquarters <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wed, June 16, 2010 1:24:21
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [ga] List of
Domain Names<BR></FONT><BR><BR>On 06/15/2010 10:59 AM, Debbie Garside
wrote:<BR><BR>>> Let's not exacerbate the privacy catastrophe that has
been<BR>>> created by ICANN's submission to the trademark
industry.<BR>> <BR>> What submission?<BR><BR>Not "submission" in the "I
submit this document to you" sense.<BR><BR>Rather, "submission" as practiced in
the South of Market part of San Francisco, as in the opposite of "dominance" -
often involving leather and whips.<BR><BR>I am on both sides of these issues
(the trademark issues, not the "submission/dominance" issues ;-) - I and my
company own several US registered trademarks that we monitor and defend.
On the other hand I am routinely aroused at all hours of the day, weekdays and
weekends, by telemarketers who are calling using telephone numbers that have
been obtained by data mining whois. And I get several thousand spams a
day to addresses that exist only in my registration information, again gleaned
by mining of whois.<BR><BR>The hypothetical threats that trademark people carry
on about are Chicken Little tantrums that their sky is falling. Much of
that whining is about uses of names that are lawful uses - even the Nike
company has to give way to the Greek pantheon and that famous winged statue
from Samothrace (sp) that's at the top of a staircase at the Louvre.<BR><BR>It
has long been my position that a trademark owner who wants to look into whois
ought to be required to state, in writing onto a permanent and public record,
his/her name and accusation, backed by concrete statements of supporting
evidence, why he/she believes that the accused domain name owner is violating
an owned trademark or some other right that is possessed by the person seeking
access.<BR><BR>
--karl--<BR><BR><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV><BR></ZZZBODY>Regards,<BR><BR>Jeffrey A.
Williams<BR>Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 300+k members/stakeholders and
growing, strong!)<BR>"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom"
-<BR> Abraham Lincoln<BR><BR>"Credit should go with the performance
of duty and not with what is very<BR>often the accident of glory" - Theodore
Roosevelt<BR><BR>"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the
burden, B; liability<BR>depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied
by<BR>P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."<BR>United States v. Carroll
Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir.
1947]<BR>===============================================================<BR>Updated
1/26/04<BR>CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS.
div. of<BR>Information Network Eng. INEG. INC.<BR>ABA member in good
standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>Phone:
214-244-4827Regards,<BR><BR>Jeffrey A. Williams<BR>Spokesman for INEGroup LLA.
- (Over 300+k members/stakeholders and growing, strong!)<BR>"Obedience of the
law is the greatest freedom" -<BR> Abraham Lincoln<BR><BR>"Credit
should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very<BR>often the
accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt<BR><BR>"If the probability be called P;
the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability<BR>depends upon whether B is less
than L multiplied by<BR>P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."<BR>United States
v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir.
1947]<BR>===============================================================<BR>Updated
1/26/04<BR>CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS.
div. of<BR>Information Network Eng. INEG. INC.<BR>ABA member in good
standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>Phone:
214-244-4827<BR><BR></ZZZHTML></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY>
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