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Re: [ga] Technical Management?? Spam, phishing and viruses??
- To: "Hugh Dierker" <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [ga] Technical Management?? Spam, phishing and viruses??
- From: "John Palmer" <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:22:14 -0500
Sorry it took me a bit to get back to you.
Yes - these are the requirements.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Hugh Dierker
To: John Palmer
Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 7:11 AM
Subject: Re: [ga] Technical Management?? Spam, phishing and viruses??
Let us be transparent here for others and myself to understand. Is
this the accurate requirements for membership?:
Thank you for taking the time to apply for membership in the TLDA!
Here is the basic criteria for Associate and Full Membership in the
TLDA. Once you have completed the application process below and you application
has been approved, you will be granted Provisional Membership status and
welcomed to the community of TLD Holders.
Membership is available to TLD holders who can prove the right to
assign or delegate rights, cancel or delegate authority for an operational TLD.
The holder must be a legally recognized entity such as, but not limited to, a
partnership, trust, corporation, natural person, government, cooperative. The
TLD must also meet certain criteria of activity and stability.
1.) You must provide the information for at least two nameservers (TLD
Servers), on separate packet switched netorks answering AUTH for the TLD, and
they must report AUTH for a valid SOA. (FQDN Hostnames and IP Addresses are
required to complete your application).
2.) You will need to have 3 SLDs delegated/registered under your TLD
that have content and are operational. These SLDs do not need to have web sites
associated with them. Content can be an ftp server, an Internet host or STMP
Server, etc. (You do not have to provide this information today).
3.) You will need an operational registry - even if it is by hand, but
you must prove a means by which SLDs can be created and delerational TLD - not
how many. You will have ample opportunity to add any additional TLDs once your
Provisional Membership has been granted.
This application is pretty much straight forward, and if you're an
actual TLD Holder or Manager you shouldn't have any problem at all completing
the required portions of the application.
Once again, thanks for applying for membership, and let's get started
okay?
--- On Wed, 6/9/10, John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ga] Technical Management?? Spam, phishing and viruses??
To: "Hugh Dierker" <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 10:20 PM
To join the TLDA - go to http://www.tldainc.org/
Click the "Join TLDA!" link on the left-hand menu.
----- Original Message -----
From: Hugh Dierker
To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; John Palmer
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: [ga] Technical Management?? Spam, phishing and
viruses??
John,
Link me up publicly here so I can sign up and do it all with
cc's to this list. I have some rights* to a TLD which is very lowtech. I
believe that we would all benerational TLD - not how many. You will have ample
opportunity to add any additional TLDs once your Provisional Membership has
been granted.
This application is pretty much straight forward, and if you're an
actual TLD Holder or Manager you shouldn't have any problem at all completing
the required portions of the application.
Once again, thanks for applying for membership, and let's get started
okay?
--- On Wed, 6/9/10, John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ga] Technical Management?? Spam, phishing and viruses??
To: "Hugh Dierker" <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 10:20 PM
To join the TLDA - go to http://www.tldainc.org/
Click the "Join TLDA!" link on the left-hand menu.
----- Original Message -----
From: Hugh Dierker
To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; John Palmer
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: [ga] Technical Management?? Spam, phishing and
viruses??
John,
Link me up publicly here so I can sign up and do it all with
cc's to this list. I have some rights* to a TLD which is very lowtech. I
believe that we would all benefit from a more active and inclusive space in
which TLDs can follow the orginal white paper that Postel was involved with in
establishing ICANN. I think glass ceilings and restrictions that are in place
are a healthy natural impediment toward growth but that we need unrestricted
space in which to expand our horizons.
*My doctoral thesis was on property rights vis a vis
restrictions of use constituting a taking of property, with all the trappings
of due process and constitutionality in both United States of America and
Mexico. And I still am at a loss as to what property rights are bestowed
through the channels of TLDs. Mueller and Froomkin seem confident along with
Faussett and Oppenheimer, but I am still scratching my head.
--- On Wed, 6/9/10, John Palmer
<jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ga] Technical Management?? Spam, phishing and
viruses??
To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 10:32 AM
The TLDA failed because not enough people were interested
in working hard enough to make
it work. It also failed because Joe's misbehavior on the
public lists scared people away.
Its there if people want it to work. Instead of throwing
stones at it, Hugh, why don't you join the
organization and help revive it? I bet you could win a seat
on the Board or committees. How
about you and "Jeff"?? Of course, the TLDA has identity
verification requirements for voting
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 10:29 AM
Subject: [ga] Technical Management?? Spam, phishing and
viruses??
Two different concepts that you have to understand
here. There is management via technicalities and technical management. Then
there are other issues -- management of technology and the technology of
management.
How to make parts interact can be technical or
social. Depends on the parts. Human parts have one very varied set of
principals, some machine parts have very "on off" simplicity. The marketing of
a political answer to a legal quandry regarding internet privacy is quite
technical and requires a complex application of soft science in the areas of
anthropology and social justice. So trying to make a clean seperation between
technical and Poli tical is nonsense. ahoo.com
href="mailto:hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx";>Hugh Dierker
To: Accountability Headquarters
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 10:29 AM
Subject: [ga] Technical Management?? Spam, phishing
and viruses??
Two different concepts that you have to
understand here. There is management via technicalities and technical
management. Then there are other issues -- management of technology and the
technology of management.
How to make parts interact can be technical or
social. Depends on the parts. Human parts have one very varied set of
principals, some machine parts have very "on off" simplicity. The marketing of
a political answer to a legal quandry regarding internet privacy is quite
technical and requires a complex application of soft science in the areas of
anthropology and social justice. So trying to make a clean seperation between
technical and Poli tical is nonsense.
My humor was that ICANN in its' own in house
process uses the failure to apply technology as an excuse to avoid efficiency
which would be contrary to the bureaucracy they have built up to justify and
obscure their actions. If this list were allowed or was run efficiently we
would be dangerous to the status quo. So matters like banning people, accuracy
in post archiving and anti-spam and virus are to be kept innocuous and
unaccontable in the political model that is ICANN.
As to Palmer's comments -- again he revels in a
victory through silencing criticism as opposed to honest discourse and
transparency in activity. Generally the sign of fear and lack of confidence in
the correctness in ones' actions. But he is a good reminder that ICANN is
getting it done where the TLDA is/was failure because of even worse forsight
and more lack of human understanding.
--- On Tue, 6/8/10, John Palmer
<jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: John Palmer
<jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ga] Re:
To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 3:59 PM
No need to worry - I contacted a responsible
party at ICANN and
the miscreant has been removed from the list.
You can all go back to your regularily
scheduled discussions, none
of which have advanced the cause of domain name
owners in all
the years that I have been here.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeffrey A. Williams
To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [ga] Re:
Hugo and all,
No my experiance regarding Eric is he
prefers technical management via some
sort of politics. I on the other hand
believe that such a practice almost always
ends up being folly and results in a poor
solution or more likely an unworkable one.
There are no political solutions to technical
problems, only technical solutions....
On a rare occasion a solution to a technical
problem is agreed to or proposed by a
politician. But those very rare occurances
are usually, or nearly always as a result
of that politician consulting with a good
technician or one sort or another before
offering his/her proposed solution.
-----Original Message-----
From: Hugo Monteiro
Sent: Jun 7, 2010 5:29 PM
To: Hugh Dierker
Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ga] Re:
On 06/07/2010 10:43 PM, Hugh Dierker wrote:
Wow. It would seem that you do not
care for technical management by politics.
One has to wonder what's so technical about
hitting a "reject/ignore" button. You just made me feel i'm a rocket scientist!
R's,
Hugo Monteiro.
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<DIV>No need to worry - I contacted a
responsible party at ICANN and </DIV>
<DIV>the miscreant has been removed from the
list.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You can all go back to your regularily
scheduled discussions, none</DIV>
<DIV>of which have advanced the cause of domain
name owners in all</DIV>
<DIV>the years that I have been here.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>John</DIV>
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<DIV
IV>No need to worry - I contacted a responsible
party at ICANN and </DIV>
<DIV>the miscreant has been removed from the
list.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You can all go back to your regularily
scheduled discussions, none</DIV>
<DIV>of which have advanced the cause of domain
name owners in all</DIV>
<DIV>the years that I have been here.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>John</DIV>
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<DIV>No need to worry - I contacted a
responsible party at ICANN and </DIV>
<DIV>the miscreant has been removed from the
list.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You can all go back to your regularily
scheduled discussions, none</DIV>
<DIV>of which have advanced the cause of domain
name owners in all</DIV>
<DIV>the years that I have been here.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>John</DIV>
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<A title=jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>Jeffrey
A. Williams</A> </DIV>
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title=ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B>
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 4:32
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Re: [ga] Re:</DIV>
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<P>Hugo and all,</P>
<P> </P>
<P> No my experiance regarding Eric is
he prefers technical management
via some</P>
<P>sort of politics. I on the other
hand believe that such a practice
almost always</P>
<P>ends up being folly and results in a poor
solution or more likely an
unworkable one. </P>
<P>There are no political solutions to
technical problems, only technical
solutions.... </P>
<P>On a rare occasion a solution to a
technical problem is agreed to or
proposed by a </P>
<P>politician. But those very rare
occurances are usually, or nearly
always as a result </P>
<P>of that politician consulting with a good
technician or one sort or another
before </P>
<P>offering his/her proposed
solution.<BR><BR><BR></P>
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Message----- <BR>From: Hugo Monteiro
<HUGO.MONTEIRO@xxxxxxxxxx><BR>Sent: Jun
7, 2010 5:29 PM <BR>To: Hugh Dierker
<HDIERKER2204@xxxxxxxxx><BR>Cc:
ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <BR>Subject: Re: [ga] Re:
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vAlign=top>Wow. It would seem that
you do not care for technical
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<BR><BR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>One has to wonder
what's so technical about hitting a
"reject/ignore" button. You just made me
feel i'm a rocket
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