RE: [ga] RE: Removal from GA list

[Frank Fowlie <frank.fowlie@xxxxxxxxx>]

Dear Mr. Williams,

Thank you for your email, and your voice mail message.

Please accept my comments on both as follows:

I can assure you that the email address given on my voice mail is functional.  
I also assure you that the webpage address given to Mr. Baptista is correct.  
It certainly not within the remit of our correspondence for me to take massive 
amounts of time and prose to convince you of these facts.

While you may believe that jurist prudence (sic) establishes that the Ombudsman 
process works in the same manner as a court process - it does not.  Please see 
the Ombudsman Framework, ratified by the Board of Directors at: 
http://www.icann.org/ombudsman/documents/ombudsman-framework-26mar09-en.pdf.  
On the top of page three you will note the following limitation to the 
jurisdiction of the Ombudsman “The subject matter of the complaint primarily 
affects a person other than the complainant and the complainant does not have 
sufficient personal interest in it;”  In this case you have not made a 
complaint to my office, and I do have you registered as the attorney of record 
on any complaint before my Office.  Therefore, while you may believe that 
remediation is a recommendation for my Office, you have again misconstrued the 
actual facts and authorities to suit your narrow, trivial and vexatious 
interests.

No further correspondence will be sent to you from my Office on this matter.  
Should you be at Los Angeles at any point in the future and wish to make an 
appointment to speak with me, please feel free to do so.   Based on the 
information found at this website, http://www.angelfire.com/clone/jeffwilliams/ 
  I would ask you to bring appropriate identification with you so that your 
identity as a complainant may be confirmed.

Best regards,



Dr. Frank Fowlie, DCR
Ombudsman

The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330
Marina del Rey
California, USA, 90292

tel: +310-823-9358
fax: +310-823-8649

www.icannombudsman.org<http://www.icannombudsman.org>
The Values of this Office are:
-Respect for Diversity;
-Excellence in Ombudsmanship;
-Professionalism;
-Confidentiality;
-Impartiality;
-and Independence.

From: Jeffrey A. Williams [mailto:jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 3:07 PM
To: Frank Fowlie; ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; 
imatx26@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; icann-board@xxxxxxxxx; Rod Beckstrom; Roberto Gaetano; 
fowlie@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: Robert Hoggarth; David Olive; gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Glen de 
Saint Géry; ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx; jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ga] RE: Removal from GA list


Frank and all,



  Appriciate your response even if it is significantly odd given nearly 100 yrs 
of US jurist prudence,

and far more than that under english law as well as you yourself are a third 
party representative

for ICANN.  None the less as I earlier responded to you on this thread, I will 
be happy to meet

with you in person here in the Allen/Frisco Texas area.  I look forward to you 
accepting accordingly.





  I just left you a voice mail so I hope you have the time to listen/review it 
accordingly.  Let me

again remind you that in your voice mail message the Email address you listed 
does not match

the one you are using here.  Perhaps you have two Email addresses with ICANN?  
Or perhaps

your voice mail message is not sufficiently correct to the extent of the email 
address you gave

on your voice mail?



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P. S.

I will add the email address you gave in your voice mail as a recipient in this 
response

just in case.  Perhaps also brushing up on your knowledge of jurist prudence and

long established legal norms would be in your and ICANN's best interest...  I am

quite sure that there are some remedial classes in your area that would provide 
you

with the requesent knowledge as well as some online courses that may suffice

accordingly.  Given part of your response below, I am sure that anyone dealing

with the you in your capacity with ICANN would greatly appriciate you doing so 
at

your earliest oppertunity.



  Thank you again for your response all be it in part significantly odd in 
advance!  [cid:image002.png@01CAED48.F6F0E0D0]

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Fowlie
Sent: May 6, 2010 3:34 PM
To: Hugh Dierker , "Jeffrey A. Williams" , "baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" , 
"imatx26@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" , "icann-board@xxxxxxxxx" , Rod Beckstrom , Roberto 
Gaetano
Cc: Robert Hoggarth , David Olive , "gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" , Glen de 
Saint Géry , "ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" , "ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx" , "jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx"
Subject: RE: [ga] RE: Removal from GA list


I am next available on Thursday morning May 20th, if you care to make an 
appointment.

I do not deal with third party representations, if Mr. Williams wishes, he is 
more than welcome to attend the meeting.

Please advise on a time before 11 am and please advise on the topic you wish to 
discuss.

Dr. Frank Fowlie, DCR
Ombudsman

The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330
Marina del Rey
California, USA, 90292

tel: +310-823-9358
fax: +310-823-8649

www.icannombudsman.org<http://www.icannombudsman.org>
The Values of this Office are:
-Respect for Diversity;
-Excellence in Ombudsmanship;
-Professionalism;
-Confidentiality;
-Impartiality;
-and Independence.

From: Hugh Dierker [mailto:hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 1:29 PM
To: Frank Fowlie; Jeffrey A. Williams; baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; 
imatx26@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; icann-board@xxxxxxxxx; Rod Beckstrom; Roberto Gaetano
Cc: Robert Hoggarth; David Olive; gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Glen de 
Saint Géry; ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx; jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ga] RE: Removal from GA list

Perhaps this is funny to Roberto.  Some who have not sacrificed to maintain 
freedom of speech are prone to take it lightly.

Frank, my office is just a scoot away from yours.  A face to face would be 
quite beneficial.
How about tomorrow around midday?
Just spoke with Jeff he is of course in Texas but he will fax over a notarized 
authorization for me to speek on his personal behalf regarding this matter and 
will be on telephone standby from your office. I am sure the same can be 
arranged for Joe Baptista.

I await your scheduling response. I hope you do not think it rude for me to 
take you on face value at your word.

Sincerely,
Eric Dierker

--- On Thu, 5/6/10, Roberto Gaetano <roberto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Roberto Gaetano <roberto@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [ga] RE: Removal from GA list
To: "'Frank Fowlie'" <frank.fowlie@xxxxxxxxx>, "'Jeffrey A. Williams'" 
<jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx, 
imatx26@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, icann-board@xxxxxxxxx, "'Rod Beckstrom'" 
<rod_beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "'Robert Hoggarth'" <robert.hoggarth@xxxxxxxxx>, "'David Olive'" 
<david.olive@xxxxxxxxx>, gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "'Glen de Saint 
Géry'" <Glen@xxxxxxxxx>, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 
jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx
Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010, 12:00 PM
Frank,
Well, perhaps we could meet face to face to discuss this?

Great sense of humour!
;>)

R.





Regards,

Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 294k members/stakeholders and growing, 
strong!)
"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
   Abraham Lincoln

"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very
often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability
depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of
Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Phone: 214-244-4827
Regards,

Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 294k members/stakeholders and growing, 
strong!)
"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
   Abraham Lincoln

"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very
often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability
depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of
Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Phone: 214-244-4827