Re: [ga] Re: OT: another moment with John Palmer All Joe does is destroy - show me his positive aspects in the I.N.S. (was Re: OT - a moment with John Palmer Re: [ga] censorship among root servers)

[Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>]

Well said Abel. However as dead as all the lists are at ICANN I prefer they 
keep posting so that we make sure the list is up and running.  On the rubbish 
side -- I like it but I wish they could try and tie it into something a little 
more Germaine.
 
For instance:  It would seem that the failure of the TLDA is a fine indicator 
of a lack of political and financial desire that it exists.  Very much the same 
as the Registrants representation issue. The name calling and rewriting history 
and just down right vicious personal attacks are not a disease but a symptom. 
Perhaps if we let more light shine upon them they will cease to have any 
deleterious effects.

--- On Sat, 4/3/10, abel wisman <abel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


From: abel wisman <abel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ga] Re: OT: another moment with John Palmer All Joe does is destroy - 
show me his positive aspects in the I.N.S. (was Re: OT - a moment with John 
Palmer Re: [ga] censorship among root servers)
To: "'ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 2:40 AM





If you have to send all this nonsense to this maillist, can you please have the 
common decency to use a spell-checker and not use words that you have no clue 
on how to spell to begin with?

Best of course woule be if you refrained from posting any of this rubbish.




From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
To: POST-TO GNSO LIST 
Sent: Sat Apr 03 04:53:45 2010
Subject: Re: OT: another moment with John Palmer All Joe does is destroy - show 
me his positive aspects in the I.N.S. (was Re: OT - a moment with John Palmer 
Re: [ga] censorship among root servers) 


Joe joe joe

You didnt answer the question that I just posed in my subj line, namely - what 
positive aspects did you ever
give to the causes of the I.N.S.?

We know you were sued by the police in Canada because you annoyed the local 
govt with your complaints
that police officers shouldn't be able to stop for meals during their hard days 
of protection for the public good.

The guy from the government, I think he said that your a bit of a kook or 
something like that, so
the question should be asked loud:

WHY SHOULD ANY PERSON TRUST ANY INFORMATION YOU SAY, JOE INCLUDING YOUR PARA 
NOID RAVINGS
REGARDING HERMAN XENT?????????????????

The way a lot of persons see the issue re Europe in around 2005 is that you did 
a deliberate sabatage when
it looked like I.N.S. would actually succeed and you know the whole industry 
died off after your stabbed it
around the heart.

Sorry crackpott, but very few people think that this is only by accident. 

I think (and do do many peoples and companies, including some sovern 
goverments) that you did this 
on purpose to kill the chances of competition for icann are the person that 
does not have much credibles. 

I think you are paid from icann. You dont seem to have more visible supports 
and live with street people in 
a po dunk town in Ontaio. You called Karl a welfare bumb once - but what are 
you but even worse because
at least Karl is an honest religion person with a nice family who tries hard. 

You, you are just a sell-off and trator. 

Sorry that the facts are pain, but there it is and all readers of experince 
know this to be real.

Thoms.

 BAX! Names Allentown
http://www.bax-names-allentown.com
Computer setup, training, software and services
Coming soon: BAX-Mail - free web email under the BAX TLD. 






From: Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Thomas Baxter <baxtertms@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: POST-TO GNSO LIST <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, April 2, 2010 10:23:48 PM
Subject: Re: OT: another moment with John Palmer All Joe does is destroy - show 
me his positive aspects in the I.N.S. (was Re: OT - a moment with John Palmer 
Re: [ga] censorship among root servers)

Dear Mr. John Palmer a.k.a. Thomas Baxter:

I think it's an innovative approach sliming me while you market your services - 
but let's try to remain focused here. Your trying to sell people on using your 
"free" root services. My only question is - why should anyone trust you John 
Palmer or your alternate personality Thomas Baxter to provide them with DNS 
services?

I would trust OpenDNS and even some of the OpenNIC servers for DNS. But I would 
never trust a man like John Palmer who leaves me psychotic messages 
http://bit.ly/5KxboD ???

The provisioning of public DNS services "free" or "pay" is all about trust. 
Would you not agree Mr. Palmer a.k.a. Thomas Baxter. So once again I ask a 
simple question. Why should we trust you?

regards
joe baptista


On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Thomas Baxter <baxtertms@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



I dont see selling any root services here - the serverces are free to anyone 
if they want to just change their dns settings in their computer.

You can get access to stuff you dont have now like the http://lion-mail.net 
which offers spam free
private e mail and looks like you can win a new apple i pad by June 30 too. 

This is one benefit that the I.N.S. should publisize - because not many people 
have
changed the dns settings, spammers cant get spams to your I.N.S. email addies. 

But Joe, you are probably paid from icann to sabatage the I.N.S. This is true or
you are sychotic, one of the two must be true.  So you shouldnt throw rocks
at people who tried to make stuff work, like John and Bradley and Herman Xennt. 

As much as I can tell, you have never created any values at all, all I see from 
reviewing
your posting on the internet from day zero is destruction from you.

Show us all what you have built in the I.N.S.  - (I can hear crickets 
chirpping...).

Thoms.

 BAX! Names Allentown
http://www.bax-names-allentown.com
Computer setup, training, software and services
Coming soon: BAX-Mail - free web email under the BAX TLD. 






From: Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Thomas Baxter <baxtertms@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 7:16:28 AM
Subject: Re: OT - a moment with John Palmer Re: [ga] censorship among root 
servers

I'm not the one selling root services here. You and your primary personality 
Mr. Palmer are the ones using this forum to sell root services. So I ask you 
again the question you have avoided answering - why should we trust you Mr. 
Palmer?

regards
joe baptista


On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:15 AM, Thomas Baxter <baxtertms@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



Oh, so you have better root to use, then - please let us all know the ips of 
the servers and we
will look in at it and see how much better. Oh, dont waste your time with 
recomending ICANN roots. t
They are leaving out 90 percents of the TLDs

 BAX! Names Allentown
http://www.bax-names-allentown.com
Computer setup, training, software and services
Coming soon: BAX-Mail - free web email under the BAX TLD. 






From: Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 

Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Mon, March 29, 2010 7:43:10 AM
Subject: OT - a moment with John Palmer Re: [ga] censorship among root servers




Just to repeat my warning. Anyone willing to hand over resolution to WorldRoot 
or INAIC (a.k.a. Public-Root) is playing with fire.

Once again John I ask you the questions I asked earlier. Why should we trust 
you or Herman and his posse to provide us with DNS service?

Incidentally - who is this Herman chap. Does Herman have a full name :)

John I ask you to remain focused on the discussion. More discussion on the 
topic and less advertisements if you don't mind.

cheers
joe baptista 


On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 11:30 PM, John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:



This is what happens when you rely on one root server network. This kind of 
thing is bound to happen. 
 
If you were using WorldRoot (http://worldroot.net) or PublicRoot 
(http://www.public-root.com), you would
not be having so many problems.
 
My posse and I and Herman and his group of engineers have been providing 
alternatives for years,
in spite of Joe's best efforts to destroy our work. 
 
We're still here.
 
Our roots are still available.
 
And we have many more TLDs than ICANN.
 
Try lion-mail.net yet? You should. Works like a charm.
 
Cheers,
John


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Joe Baptista 

To: Hugh Dierker 
Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; Andrew McMeikan ; Rod Beckstrom 
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: [ga] censorship among root servers




On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:






Andy,
 
Is it possible that this censorship and suppression of the people is a good 
thing for the rest of us?  


Hugh - we don't yet know what happened. And ICANN has been silent. It could be 
anyone behind this. I have seen some supporting evidence claiming it was the 
Chinese. But I won't put much reliance on that evidence. The claim is that a 
gateway in China did this. We know the Chinese run their own root independent 
of ICANN. Maybe this was just an accident and a faulty gateway leaked the China 
DNS. It could be anything.