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Re: [ga] Registrants

  • To: Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>, Accountability Headquarters <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Andy Gardner <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, icann-board@xxxxxxxxx
  • Subject: Re: [ga] Registrants
  • From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:45:21 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
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<P>Eric and all,</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp; As this will come a no surprise to some, but with great disagreement 
amongst a few, my belief is that</P>
<P>the GA is still the best means and place by which both registrants and 
non-registrant users views, ect.</P>
<P>can be proposed, suggested, and vetted.&nbsp; However as the GNSO has some 
time back decided that</P>
<P>the GA is not what the GNSO council would prefer, and as a result 
effectively orphaned in a sense,</P>
<P>Individual Registrants and non-registrants are demonstrably not represented 
within ICANN.&nbsp; As such,</P>
<P>irrespective of the ALAC and the skewed Constituency model including the 
recent addition of the</P>
<P>NCUC, the vast majority of registrants and non-registrants remain 
unrepresented or under represented</P>
<P>due to capture by special interest groups realized as ICANN constituencies 
and the far less than</P>
<P>democratic means by which the leaders of those Constituencies are 
determined/selected.&nbsp; </P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp; As long as the status quo remains, with the soon to be introduced new 
gTLD's, abuses of</P>
<P>registrants will increase markedly as will the abuse of non-registrant users 
accordingly.<BR><BR><BR></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 
2px solid">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Hugh Dierker 
<HDIERKER2204@xxxxxxxxx><BR>Sent: Nov 8, 2009 7:47 AM <BR>To: Accountability 
Headquarters <GA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Andy Gardner 
<ANDY@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Subject: Re: [ga] Registrants <BR><BR>
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<DIV>Andy,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>That is a very nice knee jerk reaction with an emotional aggravated 
flavor.&nbsp; Everyone of sound mind would agree that it is truly an amazing 
calamity that registrants cannot even kind of remotely self organize.&nbsp; The 
sadness of this truth is somehow reminiscent and similar to the US housing 
market of greed, avarice and "get what is mine" and the good of the whole be 
damned attitude.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>My personal experience and witness has been with Joop, Sotiris and Danny. 
I have watched is amazement as that fervor has spilled over here to keep the 
dotcommoner from organizing so as not to take the place of the registrants 
rights.&nbsp; The end fighting and lack of leadership in the registrant 
community has done more to prevent user direct participation in ICANN than any 
board member or entire board.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>How about you address those issues and what might be done to correct the 
course of Registrant self organization.<BR><BR>--- On <B>Sat, 11/7/09, Andy 
Gardner <I>&lt;andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: 
rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Andy Gardner 
&lt;andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: [ga] Registrants<BR>To: 
"Accountability Headquarters" &lt;ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>Date: Saturday, 
November 7, 2009, 7:05 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=plainMail><BR><BR>Transparency? Personal power posturing?<BR><BR>The 
bulk of ICANN funding comes from Registrants.<BR><BR>We pay for the show, then 
we're expected to pay AGAIN by have to "self-organise".<BR><BR>We tried that 
once and got the bum's rush.<BR><BR>It's time for ICANN to acknowledge who pays 
all the bills, recognise they've been left out of the process for years, and do 
all the work to get them in the process where they should have rightfully been 
from day 
one.<BR><BR><BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR>Regards,<BR><BR>Jeffrey
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