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Re: [ga] Re: [governance] Civil Society Groups and Privacy Expertes Release Madrid Declaration
- To: Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>, "governance@xxxxxxxxxx.orgGovernance IGC" <governance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Katitza Rodriguez <katitza@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [ga] Re: [governance] Civil Society Groups and Privacy Expertes Release Madrid Declaration
- From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 13:45:26 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
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<P>Eric and all,</P>
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<P> I agree on this point as well. Perhaps querying them on
considerations you may have</P>
<P>in this regard publicly would aid in helping them to be far more
transparent. <BR><BR><BR></P>
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2px solid">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Hugh Dierker
<HDIERKER2204@xxxxxxxxx><BR>Sent: Nov 7, 2009 12:34 AM <BR>To:
"governance@xxxxxxxxxx.orgGovernance IGC" <GOVERNANCE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Katitza
Rodriguez <KATITZA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Jeffrey A. Williams"
<JWKCKID1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Cc: irp
<IRP@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, icann-board@xxxxxxxxx,
jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx, ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx, rod_beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx,
ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <BR>Subject: Re: [ga] Re: [governance] Civil Society Groups
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<TD vAlign=top>I would really like these groups that demand open and
transparent deliberations to be a bit more open and transparent about
themselves.<BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 11/6/09, Jeffrey A. Williams
<I><jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx></I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT:
rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Jeffrey A. Williams
<jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Subject: Re: [ga] Re: [governance] Civil
Society Groups and Privacy <SPAN>Expertes</SPAN> Release Madrid
Declaration<BR>To: "Hugh Dierker" <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>,
"governance@xxxxxxxxxx.orgGovernance IGC" <governance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"Katitza Rodriguez" <katitza@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Cc: "irp"
<Irp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, icann-board@xxxxxxxxx,
jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx, ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx, rod_beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx,
ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 1:53 PM<BR><BR>
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<DIV>Eric and all,</DIV>
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<DIV> Good point all, and I agree. I also have a wonderment as to
whom or what entities are funding</DIV>
<DIV>such academic adventures, as you so aptly put it. What's interesting
is to see on C-Span</DIV>
<DIV>just yesterday on the renewal of the Patriot act especially language under
artical 215 which</DIV>
<DIV>was amended in markup via amendment to water down government intrusion,
yet also to see</DIV>
<DIV>that with ACTA, more specific provisions that were leaked by Michael Giest
seemingly to</DIV>
<DIV>have the opposite intent and effect.<BR><BR><BR></DIV>
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2px solid">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Hugh Dierker <BR>Sent: Nov 6,
2009 12:34 AM <BR>To: "governance@xxxxxxxxxx.orgGovernance IGC" , Katitza
Rodriguez , "Jeffrey A. Williams" <BR>Cc: irp , icann-board@xxxxxxxxx,
jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx, ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx, rod_beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx,
ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <BR>Subject: Re: [ga] Re: [governance] Civil Society Groups
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<DIV>Jeff,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>In reading this through it looked a little like some pandering was going
on. I really did not see any victim statement or passion in the argument
against increased making public that which should be private. Seems like
this should be coming from practical losers in the violations of privacy.
This looks more like a philosopher ruler hypothetical decree of morality. So I
am wondering who funds such academic adventures.<BR><BR>--- On <B>Thu, 11/5/09,
Jeffrey A. Williams <I><jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Jeffrey A. Williams
<jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Subject: [ga] Re: [governance] Civil Society
Groups and Privacy Expertes Release Madrid Declaration<BR>To:
governance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Katitza Rodriguez"
<katitza@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "governance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx"Governance
IGC"" <governance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Cc: "irp"
<Irp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, icann-board@xxxxxxxxx,
jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx, ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx, rod_beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx,
ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 11:39 AM<BR><BR>
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<DIV>Katitza and all,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> This IMO is good stuff. What worries many or our INEGroup
members is that still most</DIV>
<DIV>of ICANN's registrars are not on board here and seem determined to remain
largely</DIV>
<DIV>disinterested in Registrants as well as non-registrant users privacy what
so ever.<BR><BR><BR></DIV>
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2px solid">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Katitza Rodriguez <BR>Sent: Nov
4, 2009 5:18 PM <BR>To: governance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <BR>Cc: irp <BR>Subject:
[governance] Civil Society Groups and Privacy Expertes Release Madrid
Declaration <BR><BR>
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<DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 24px">Civil Society Groups and Privacy
Experts Release Madrid Declaration, Reaffirm International Privacy Laws,
Identify New Challenges and Call for Concrete Action to Safeguard
Privacy</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=asset-meta><SPAN class=byline>By <A
href="http://csisac.org/structure.php"; target=_blank rel=nofollow>Liason</A> on
November 3, 2009 12:49 PM </SPAN><SPAN class=separator>|</SPAN> <A
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<DIV>In a crisply worded declaration, over 100 civil society organizations and
privacy experts from more than 40 countries have set out an expansive statement
on the future of privacy. The Madrid Declaration affirms that privacy is a
fundamental human right and reminds "all countries of their obligations to
safeguard the civil rights of their citizens and residents." <A
href="http://thepublicvoice.org/madrid-declaration/"; target=_blank
rel=nofollow>The Madrid Declaration</A> warns that "privacy law and privacy
institutions have failed to take full account of new surveillance practices."
The Declaration urges countries "that have not yet established a comprehensive
framework for privacy protection and an independent data protection authority
to do so as expeditiously as possible." The civil society groups and experts
recommend a "moratorium on the development or implementation of new systems of
mass surveillance." Finally, the Declaration calls for the "establishment of a
new international framework for privacy protection, with the full participation
of civil society, that is based on the rule of law, respect for fundamental
human rights, and support for democratic institutions." The Madrid Declaration
was released at the Public Voice conference in Madrid <A
href="http://thepublicvoice.org/events/madrid09/"; target=_blank rel=nofollow>on
Global Privacy Standards</A>. <A
href="http://thepublicvoice.org/events/madrid09/"; target=_blank
rel=nofollow>Multiple translations</A> of the Declaration are available.</DIV>
<DIV>Please send your signature at privacy @ datos-personales.org </DIV>
<DIV>If you want to help with some translations, pls. send an email
to privacy @ datos-personales.org </DIV>
<DIV>We are recruiting signatures until January 28, International Privacy
Day.</DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff
2px solid">Regards,<BR><BR>Jeffrey A. Williams<BR>Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. -
(Over 294k members/stakeholders strong!)<BR>"Obedience of the law is the
greatest freedom" -<BR> Abraham Lincoln<BR><BR>"Credit should go
with the performance of duty and not with what is very<BR>often the accident of
glory" - Theodore Roosevelt<BR><BR>"If the probability be called P; the injury,
L; and the burden, B; liability<BR>depends upon whether B is less than L
multiplied by<BR>P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."<BR>United States v.
Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir.
1947]<BR>===============================================================<BR>Updated
1/26/04<BR>CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS.
div. of<BR>Information Network Eng. INEG. INC.<BR>ABA member in good
standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>Phone:
214-244-4827<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR>Regards,<BR><BR>Jeffrey
A. Williams<BR>Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 294k members/stakeholders
strong!)<BR>"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -<BR>
Abraham Lincoln<BR><BR>"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not
with what is very<BR>often the accident of glory" - Theodore
Roosevelt<BR><BR>"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the
burden, B; liability<BR>depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied
by<BR>P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."<BR>United States v. Carroll
Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir.
1947]<BR>===============================================================<BR>Updated
1/26/04<BR>CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS.
div. of<BR>Information Network Eng. INEG. INC.<BR>ABA member in good
standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>Phone:
214-244-4827</BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR>
<DIV>Regards,<BR><BR>Jeffrey A. Williams<BR>Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over
294k members/stakeholders strong!)<BR>"Obedience of the law is the greatest
freedom" -<BR> Abraham Lincoln<BR><BR>"Credit should go with the
performance of duty and not with what is very<BR>often the accident of glory" -
Theodore Roosevelt<BR><BR>"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and
the burden, B; liability<BR>depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied
by<BR>P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."<BR>United States v. Carroll
Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir.
1947]<BR>===============================================================<BR>Updated
1/26/04<BR>CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS.
div. of<BR>Information Network Eng. INEG. INC.<BR>ABA member in good
standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>Phone:
214-244-4827</DIV></ZZZBODY></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY>
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