Re: [ga] Re: [governance] Civil Society Groups and Privacy Expertes Release Madrid Declaration

[Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>]

I would really like these groups that demand open and transparent deliberations 
to be a bit more open and transparent about themselves.

--- On Fri, 11/6/09, Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


From: Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ga] Re: [governance] Civil Society Groups and Privacy Expertes 
Release Madrid Declaration
To: "Hugh Dierker" <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>, 
"governance@xxxxxxxxxx.orgGovernance IGC" <governance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Katitza 
Rodriguez" <katitza@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "irp" <Irp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, icann-board@xxxxxxxxx, 
jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx, ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx, rod_beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx, 
ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 1:53 PM



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Eric and all,
 
  Good point all, and I agree.  I also have a wonderment as to whom or what 
entities are funding
such academic adventures, as you so aptly put it.  What's interesting is to see 
on C-Span
just yesterday on the renewal of the Patriot act especially language under 
artical 215 which
was amended in markup via amendment to water down government intrusion, yet 
also to see
that with ACTA, more specific provisions that were leaked by Michael Giest 
seemingly to
have the opposite intent and effect.



-----Original Message----- 
From: Hugh Dierker 
Sent: Nov 6, 2009 12:34 AM 
To: "governance@xxxxxxxxxx.orgGovernance IGC" , Katitza Rodriguez , "Jeffrey A. 
Williams" 
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Subject: Re: [ga] Re: [governance] Civil Society Groups and Privacy Expertes 
Release Madrid Declaration 






Jeff,
 
In reading this through it looked a little like some pandering was going on.  I 
really did not see any victim statement or passion in the argument against 
increased making public that which should be private.  Seems like this should 
be coming from practical losers in the violations of privacy.  This looks more 
like a philosopher ruler hypothetical decree of morality. So I am wondering who 
funds such academic adventures.

--- On Thu, 11/5/09, Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


From: Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ga] Re: [governance] Civil Society Groups and Privacy Expertes 
Release Madrid Declaration
To: governance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Katitza Rodriguez" 
<katitza@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "governance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx"Governance IGC"" 
<governance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "irp" <Irp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, icann-board@xxxxxxxxx, 
jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx, ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx, rod_beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx, 
ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 11:39 AM



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Katitza and all,
 
  This IMO is good stuff.  What worries many or our INEGroup members is that 
still most
of ICANN's registrars are not on board here and seem determined to remain 
largely
disinterested in Registrants as well as non-registrant users privacy what so 
ever.



-----Original Message----- 
From: Katitza Rodriguez 
Sent: Nov 4, 2009 5:18 PM 
To: governance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Cc: irp 
Subject: [governance] Civil Society Groups and Privacy Expertes Release Madrid 
Declaration 




Civil Society Groups and Privacy Experts Release Madrid Declaration, Reaffirm 
International Privacy Laws, Identify New Challenges and Call for Concrete 
Action to Safeguard Privacy


By Liason on November 3, 2009 12:49 PM | Permalink 


In a crisply worded declaration, over 100 civil society organizations and 
privacy experts from more than 40 countries have set out an expansive statement 
on the future of privacy. The Madrid Declaration affirms that privacy is a 
fundamental human right and reminds "all countries of their obligations to 
safeguard the civil rights of their citizens and residents." The Madrid 
Declaration warns that "privacy law and privacy institutions have failed to 
take full account of new surveillance practices." The Declaration urges 
countries "that have not yet established a comprehensive framework for privacy 
protection and an independent data protection authority to do so as 
expeditiously as possible." The civil society groups and experts recommend a 
"moratorium on the development or implementation of new systems of mass 
surveillance." Finally, the Declaration calls for the "establishment of a new 
international framework for privacy protection, with the full
 participation of civil society, that is based on the rule of law, respect for 
fundamental human rights, and support for democratic institutions." The Madrid 
Declaration was released at the Public Voice conference in Madrid on Global 
Privacy Standards. Multiple translations of the Declaration are available.
Please send your signature at privacy @ datos-personales.org 
If you want to help with some translations, pls. send an email to privacy @ 
datos-personales.org 
We are recruiting signatures until January 28, International Privacy Day.
http://thepublicvoice.org/2009/11/civil-society-groups-and-privacy-expertes-release-madrid-declaration-reaffirm-international-privacy.php_______________________________________________
Madrid mailing list
Madrid@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://mailman.thepublicvoice.org/listinfo.cgi/madrid-thepublicvoice.org



Regards,

Jeffrey A. Williams
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Regards,

Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 294k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
   Abraham Lincoln

"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very
often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability
depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
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Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Phone: 214-244-4827