Re: [ga] Open Source Voting Software Concept Released

[Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I was a member of the TLDA and in fact because of me the TLDA is in
existence today. I can confirm the TLDA is a private club. At one time it
had a diverse group of members and today I think they have five or six.
Everyone abandoned ship. One of the directors on the board is not even
allowed to participate.

Other wrong doing include Karl Peters falsifying our bylaws. It's been down
hill from there. Directors have been removed from the board without notice.
And the organization would not even exist today if one of the members had
not paid the annual filing fee with the state of Georgia where it is
incorporated.

Incidentally the TLDA has not repaid that director the $15.00 owed. Probably
because it hasd no money. Most of the people who run it are unemployed.

Karl we all know the TLDA is a joke and what's worse a review of the
directors and officers of the corporation will show they are all linked with
that fraud in the Netherlands run by Herman Xennt.

The TLDA represent no one in the community nor does it have our support.

Karl - stop trying to bamboozle us with your nonsense. The TLDA is finished.
For any organization to be credible it must have credible people and no one
associated with the TLDA is in any way credible.

cheers
joe baptista

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Karl E. Peters <tlda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

>
> Eric, (Hugh)
>     I do not have a sufficiently foul mouth to appropriately answer
> your unfounded charges and mud-slinging. I will deal with your points
> for the others witnessing here, however. First of all, the TLDA, Inc.
> adopted the rules for membership now in use b in accordance with our
> by-laws by a vote of the Board of directors, a link to the minutes from
> the meeting that approved the latest update to our policy is below:
>
>
> http://www.tldainc.org/corporate-documents/57-minutes/89-minutes-04-june-2009.html
>
>     The entire document regarding membership requirements, rights and
> responsibilities is at this link:
>
> http://www.tldainc.org/membership-guidelines-and-regulations.html
>
>     These are the facts with regard to the TLDA, Inc. Now, please tell
> us what document of ICANN allows you to self-extend your term as leader
> for the GA far beyond your elected term? Show us the archives for that
> decision, or did it just kind of happen...?
>
> Karl E. Peters
>
> E-Mail: karl.peters@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Tel.: (843) 610-2608 (Cel.)
> Tel.: (912) 638-1638 (Tel.)
>
>
>
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: RE: [ga] Open Source Voting Software Concept Released
> > From: Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Sun, October 25, 2009 8:47 pm
> > To: "Karl E. Peters" <karl.peters@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: rod_beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx, ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx, Glen@xxxxxxxxx,
> > governance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx,  "Jeffrey A. Williams"
> > <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >
> > How completely insincere and false.
> > The TLDA denies membership based upon nonpublished data. Otherwise you
> would have just told us what it is. You in fact do have a voting system. But
> I asure you that you do not own any regulations. What is the link to this
> voting and by-laws and when were they adopted by members?
> >
> > Clearly in the case of the TLDA and the NCUC the emphasis is on the club
> status and not open membership with voting rights.
> >
> > --- On Sun, 10/25/09, Karl E. Peters <tlda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Karl E. Peters <tlda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: RE: [ga] Open Source Voting Software Concept Released
> > To: "Hugh Dierker" <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: rod_beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx, ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx, Glen@xxxxxxxxx,
> governance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Jeffrey A. Williams" <
> jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 4:31 PM
> >
> >
> > FYI, The TLDA does in fact have its own voting system, that unlike the
> > US Government, requires real people who meet real criteria set forth in
> > the By-Laws and published voting regulations to cast votes for any
> > measure taken up. Those who failed, and continue to fail, to meet or try
> > to meet the required criteria and procedure will naturally be denied a
> > vote. The TLDA was not set up as a constituency, but rather more of a
> > trade association. It seems a apple is being criticized for not being a
> > very good orange. While you may certainly do that, it is without real
> > merit or value.
> >
> > Karl E. Peters
> >
> > E-Mail: tlda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Tel.: (843) 610-2608 (Cel.)
> > Tel.: (912) 638-1638 (Tel.)
> >
> >
> >
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: Re: [ga] Open Source Voting Software Concept Released
> > > From: Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > Date: Sun, October 25, 2009 6:23 pm
> > > To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Cc: rod_beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx, ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx, Glen@xxxxxxxxx,
>
> > > governance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > >
> > > Jeff,
> > >
> > > The issue is remarkably well timed however the articles are farcical.
> > > If we take what the following are doing we can see that voting by the
> ultimate stakeholders is still a long ways off -- not for logistical,
> logical or even legacal reasons but because of the politics of the players;
> > >
> > > Danny Younger - over at the start up work for a "registrants goup" no
> direct voting is on the table-- worries of capture and control.
> > > Paul Lehto - over at the IGF bringing a hailstorm of reasons why voting
> is terrible and can only be done right or not at all.
> > > Denise Michels -- here and at the ALAC -- "we can neither provide
> mechanisms nor endorse any process".
> > > TLDA -- That mess has gone completely south for resistance to open
> voting amoung "allowable members". Which brings us to civil society and
> Internet governance,,,,,
> > > UN-ISOC-IGF -- Requires a "suitable" "cadre"???
> > > NCUC - Is most notable with the Muellerites denying membership and
> voting rights to any that do not cow tow to the Ivory tower benevelont
> dictatorship of those with foundation funding that is contigent on no common
> people being allowed to participate.
> > >
> > > The very sad and complete truth that it is the societal stakeholders
> that are blocking direct dotcommoner representation in Internet
> governance, reveals the direct power struggle by egomaniac
> wantabeees clawing their way to funding and publication rights at the
> expense of representation. I know what is going on and can route around it
> while the Nartens continue to herd the cats in such a way to avoid consensus
> and the establishment of voting rights. But I worry for my children.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Sun, 10/25/09, Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: [ga] Open Source Voting Software Concept Released
> > > To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Cc: rod_beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx, ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx, Glen@xxxxxxxxx,
> governance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Date: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 12:47 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > All,
> > >
> > >   Can ICANN still further afford to ignore?  Me thinks not for long...
> > >
> > > "Wired is reporting that the Open Source Digital
> > > Voting Foundation has announced the first release of
> http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/10/open-sourceLinux- and Ruby-based
> election management software. This software
> > > should compete in the same realm as Election Systems & Software, as
> well as
> > > Diebold/Premiere for use by County registrars. Mitch Kapor founder of
> > > Lotus 1-2-3 and Dean Logan, Registrar for Los Angeles County, and Debra
> > > Bowen, California Secretary of State, all took part in a formal
> > > announcement ceremony. The http://osdv.org/aboutOSDV is working with
> > > multiple jurisdictions, activists, developers and other organizations
> > > to bring together 'the best and brightest in technology and policy'
> > > to create 'guidelines and specifications for high assurance digital
> voting
> > > services.' The announcement was made as part of the OSDV
> http://www.trustthevote.org/
> > > Trust the Vote project, where open source tools are to be used to
> create a
> > > certifiable and sustainable open source voting system."
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > > Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 294k members/stakeholders strong!)
> > > "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
> > >    Abraham Lincoln
> > >
> > > "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
> very
> > > often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
> > >
> > > "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
> liability
> > > depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
> > > P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> > > United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
> > > ===============================================================
> > > Updated 1/26/04
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>
>


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