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Re: [ga] 1. continuing inter-registrar transfer violations 4/08 Advisory

  • To: Accountability Headquarters <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [ga] 1. continuing inter-registrar transfer violations 4/08 Advisory
  • From: Andy Gardner <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:41:42 -0500

Jeffrey, you keep on making the same mistake.

Godaddy's _CUSTOMERS_ are ICANN's most significant source of revenue.

They could shut Godaddy down tomorrow without any loss of revenue for ICANN, as the REGISTRANTS - the liveblood of ICANN - would be moved to other Registrars.

On Oct 12, 2009, at 5:55 PM, Jeffrey A. Williams wrote:

Eric and all,

GoDaddy has been a abuser almost sense it's conception, and remains so as well is "Allowed" to do so with relative impunity. ICANN is limited as to what it actually do about such continuing abuse other than dis-accrediting GoDaddy as a ICANN Registrar, which IMO ICANN should have done some time ago now. Given that GoDaddy is ICANN single largest volume Registrar and as such a significant source of revinue for ICANN seems to me that there is motivation at least for ICANN to be reluctant to take draconian action such as dis- accrediting GoDaddy. I personally find that logic if extant to be utter nonsense if ICANN seeks balance as it purports to seek. Rather it appears that ICANN in the case of GoDaddy as well as with other Registrars is much more interested in the fees for funding than they are as a public service global corporation.

-----Original Message-----
From: Hugh Dierker
Sent: Oct 11, 2009 10:37 PM
To: Accountability Headquarters
Cc: Danny Younger
Subject: [ga] 1. continuing inter-registrar transfer violations 4/08 Advisory

Continuing with your issues -- you wrote
""1. we continue to have ongoing violations of inter-registrar transfer consensus policy by GoDadddy (through their 60-day lock upon WHOIS change) in spite of the April 2008 Advisory on the topic.""
Some research and issue orientation :-)
See: http://www.icann.org/en/transfers/
Here is a pretty good snapshot of where we were in 2004: 
Here is pretty much the latest and greatest: http://syd.icann.org/node/4027
Here is a reflective dialogue on the subject of the April Advisory:
Here is a simplified but seemingly accurate account of the advisory;
I think Tim Ruiz and GoDaddy know they continue to violate the principals here. I think ICANN knows that they know that we know and you know blah blah blah. ICANN continures to refuse to act as an enforcement police group. Sounds bad until you consider the alternative.


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