Re: [ga] 1. continuing inter-registrar transfer violations 4/08 Advisory

[Andy Gardner <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Jeffrey, you keep on making the same mistake.

Godaddy's _CUSTOMERS_ are ICANN's most significant source of revenue.

They could shut Godaddy down tomorrow without any loss of revenue for  
ICANN, as the REGISTRANTS - the liveblood of ICANN - would be moved to  
other Registrars.
On Oct 12, 2009, at 5:55 PM, Jeffrey A. Williams wrote:

> Eric and all,
>
>   GoDaddy has been a abuser almost sense it's conception, and  
> remains so as well is "Allowed"
> to do so with relative impunity.  ICANN is limited as to what it  
> actually do about such continuing
> abuse other than dis-accrediting GoDaddy as a ICANN Registrar, which  
> IMO ICANN should have
> done some time ago now.  Given that GoDaddy is ICANN single largest  
> volume Registrar and
> as such a significant source of revinue for ICANN seems to me that  
> there is motivation at least
> for ICANN to be reluctant to take draconian action such as dis- 
> accrediting GoDaddy.  I personally
> find that logic if extant to be utter nonsense if ICANN seeks  
> balance as it purports to seek.  Rather
> it appears that ICANN in the case of GoDaddy as well as with other  
> Registrars is much more
> interested in the fees for funding than they are as a public service  
> global corporation.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hugh Dierker
> Sent: Oct 11, 2009 10:37 PM
> To: Accountability Headquarters
> Cc: Danny Younger
> Subject: [ga] 1. continuing inter-registrar transfer violations 4/08  
> Advisory
> Danny,
> Continuing with your issues -- you wrote
> ""1.  we continue to have ongoing violations of inter-registrar  
> transfer consensus policy by GoDadddy (through their 60-day lock  
> upon WHOIS change) in spite of the April 2008 Advisory on the topic.""
> Some research and issue orientation :-)
> See: http://www.icann.org/en/transfers/
> Here is a pretty good snapshot of where we were in 2004: 
> http://www.circleid.com/posts/icann_transfer_policy_domain_hijacking_got_easier_or_did_it/
> Here is pretty much the latest and greatest: http://syd.icann.org/node/4027
> Here is a reflective dialogue on the subject of the April Advisory:
> http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/registrars/msg05757.html
> Here is a simplified but seemingly accurate account of the advisory;
> http://www.ag-ip-news.com/GetArticle.asp?Art_ID=5679&lang=en
> I think Tim Ruiz and GoDaddy know they continue to violate the  
> principals here.  I think ICANN knows that they know that we know  
> and you know  blah blah blah.  ICANN continures to refuse to act as  
> an enforcement police group.  Sounds bad until you consider the  
> alternative.
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Jeffrey A. Williams
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