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Re: [ga] 1. continuing inter-registrar transfer violations 4/08 Advisory

  • To: Andy Gardner <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Accountability Headquarters <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [ga] 1. continuing inter-registrar transfer violations 4/08 Advisory
  • From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:49:49 -0500 (GMT-05:00)

Andy and all,

  I herd/read you the first time and fully understand this dynamic
as you rightly deliniate it.  What's important though is that ICANN's
RAA's determine the nature of the cash flow from the Registrant through
the Registrar and that the Registrar is responsible as an Accredited
Registrar of ICANN to "Police" it's operation.  GoDaddy is not only
not doing so adaquately but in addition in respect to transfer requests
is denying of delaying such at the detrament of the requested registrant.
Ergo GoDaddy in this instance is retaining revinue it should not, and 
ICANN is recieving part of that revenue under on very questionable
grounds.  Therefore it falls to the ICANN staff to exercise it's
duty to the registrant community to get it's Accredited Registrar,
GoDaddy in line or dis-accredit same without further delay and seek
alternitives for those existing Registrants accordingly.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Andy Gardner <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Oct 12, 2009 6:41 PM
>To: Accountability Headquarters <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: [ga] 1. continuing inter-registrar transfer violations 4/08 
>Jeffrey, you keep on making the same mistake.
>Godaddy's _CUSTOMERS_ are ICANN's most significant source of revenue.
>They could shut Godaddy down tomorrow without any loss of revenue for  
>ICANN, as the REGISTRANTS - the liveblood of ICANN - would be moved to  
>other Registrars.
>On Oct 12, 2009, at 5:55 PM, Jeffrey A. Williams wrote:
>> Eric and all,
>>   GoDaddy has been a abuser almost sense it's conception, and  
>> remains so as well is "Allowed"
>> to do so with relative impunity.  ICANN is limited as to what it  
>> actually do about such continuing
>> abuse other than dis-accrediting GoDaddy as a ICANN Registrar, which  
>> IMO ICANN should have
>> done some time ago now.  Given that GoDaddy is ICANN single largest  
>> volume Registrar and
>> as such a significant source of revinue for ICANN seems to me that  
>> there is motivation at least
>> for ICANN to be reluctant to take draconian action such as dis- 
>> accrediting GoDaddy.  I personally
>> find that logic if extant to be utter nonsense if ICANN seeks  
>> balance as it purports to seek.  Rather
>> it appears that ICANN in the case of GoDaddy as well as with other  
>> Registrars is much more
>> interested in the fees for funding than they are as a public service  
>> global corporation.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Hugh Dierker
>> Sent: Oct 11, 2009 10:37 PM
>> To: Accountability Headquarters
>> Cc: Danny Younger
>> Subject: [ga] 1. continuing inter-registrar transfer violations 4/08  
>> Advisory
>> Danny,
>> Continuing with your issues -- you wrote
>> ""1.  we continue to have ongoing violations of inter-registrar  
>> transfer consensus policy by GoDadddy (through their 60-day lock  
>> upon WHOIS change) in spite of the April 2008 Advisory on the topic.""
>> Some research and issue orientation :-)
>> See: http://www.icann.org/en/transfers/
>> Here is a pretty good snapshot of where we were in 2004: 
>> http://www.circleid.com/posts/icann_transfer_policy_domain_hijacking_got_easier_or_did_it/
>> Here is pretty much the latest and greatest: http://syd.icann.org/node/4027
>> Here is a reflective dialogue on the subject of the April Advisory:
>> http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/registrars/msg05757.html
>> Here is a simplified but seemingly accurate account of the advisory;
>> http://www.ag-ip-news.com/GetArticle.asp?Art_ID=5679&lang=en
>> I think Tim Ruiz and GoDaddy know they continue to violate the  
>> principals here.  I think ICANN knows that they know that we know  
>> and you know  blah blah blah.  ICANN continures to refuse to act as  
>> an enforcement police group.  Sounds bad until you consider the  
>> alternative.

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